NASA in Moon Photshopping shocker

JRS said:
Because sometimes, "just because we can" is a great reason to go do something :)
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"There is no strife, no prejudice, no national conflict in outer space as yet. Its hazards are hostile to us all. Its conquest deserves the best of all mankind, and its opportunity for peaceful cooperation many never come again. But why, some say, the moon? Why choose this as our goal? And they may well ask why climb the highest mountain? Why, 35 years ago, fly the Atlantic?"

Some never learn :rolleyes:
 
Well the videos and photoes are clearly videoshoped and photophoped respectively. The Rothchilds found vast amounts of gold on the dark side of the moon. They faked the apollo landings to put off other countries to travel to moon as if nothing is there. Since the Rothchilds control the world, they send their own rockets to the dark side of the moon to mine vast amounts of gold and return them back to earth. Every UFO ever noticed was in fact Rothchild's space shuttle either going or coming back from mining gold. With that amount of gold they can ensure new world order through controlling of the lizard men that brainwash the masses through the media. In fact Libyan shenanigans were set with actors(professional actors who die just to play their role well) just to divert attention from increased amount of mining of gold on the moon due to financial crisis. Did I mention financial crisis was created to spike the value of gold so that Rothschild could buy Mars? Communism.
 
amigafan2003 said:
And why bother? What's the point?
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe and Lao-Tzu, Einstein, Morobuto, Buddy Holly, Aristophanes .. and all of this .. all of this was for nothing unless we go to the stars."
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That. That and resources. The moon and near-earth Asteroids are full of them and boy do we need them.
 
Nerusy said:
In fact Libyan shenanigans were set with actors(professional actors who die just to play their role well)
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Totally agree except for this bit.
I heard from a mate of a mate that the actors didn't really die but were given a top secret drug harvested from Alien technology that made them look dead.
 
[FnG]magnolia;20010352 said:
I want groen to explain to us again how man has never made it out of the earth's atmosphere. It cheers me up every time :)
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Hopefully it'll include references to the Van Halen belt :D:p
 
I saw this earlier on the news.

"This will surely put to bed the wild conspiracy theories."

Yeah, I don't think so...
 
The cornering ability evidence of the LRV does seem consistent with other American vehicles of that era, i.e. it can't do them.
 
dmpoole said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14813043

So fellow tin foil hatters, what do you think of that?
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ok it's really early so i'm guessing the title is some kind of bait?

As i was expecting it to be something like the mars ones where they alter the colours for publicity shots.


Forde said:
Space noob question: Why haven't we been back to the moon? Why haven't other countries gone since the septic tanks did?
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It's expensive and doesn't gain you anything?
 
Tefal said:
ok it's really early so i'm guessing the title is some kind of bait?

As i was expecting it to be something like the mars ones where they alter the colours for publicity shots.
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That's not so much a publicity thing as a... thing. When sending something to another planet you have to calibrate the instruments to work in that environment, auto white balance and colour pallets that work on Earth wouldn't on Mars. Just like the Hubble Palette isn't 'just' a way of making DSOs look prettier:

http://astroprofspage.com/archives/1500

(I'm having problems with this page and redirecting, you may have to stop it from loading fully).

Tefal said:
It's expensive and doesn't gain you anything?
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Debatable, extremely debatable... or just downright untrue, take your pick :p
 
Currently I don't see much point of going to the moon, other than as a test bed to go to mars. To test equipment before sending it on such a massive journey. But then do you need such a. Test bed, or was the NASA plan, more about getting the public on board within a decade to then get funding for mars?

It's a shame we don't work together more on space. We built ISS, imagine what could be done if we combine to make a cheap, reusable lifter. Like the skylon plane. Hopefully the engine tests will go well next year.
 
PermaBanned said:
Debatable, extremely debatable... or just downright untrue, take your pick :p
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at the moment a manned mission to the moon gains you pretty much nothing for the cost to get there especially when for less money you can lobby to have your experiment done on the ISS.

in years to come space travel will actually have a profit to it and it'll take off. until then though it's just not really going to happen
 
AcidHell2 said:
It's a shame we don't work together more on space. We built ISS, imagine what could be done if we combine to make a cheap, reusable lifter. Like the skylon plane. Hopefully the engine tests will go well next year.
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iirc the USAF is/has started testing a space plane recently, not full permanent stable orbit though, but could drop a satellite off/open it's bay to expose instruments that would last several months or drop a payload to hit anywhere on the planet every quickly.
 
AcidHell2 said:
Currently I don't see much point of going to the moon, other than as a test bed to go to mars. To test equipment before sending it on such a massive journey. But then do you need such a. Test bed, or was the NASA plan, more about getting the public on board within a decade to then get funding for mars?

It's a shame we don't work together more on space. We built ISS, imagine what could be done if we combine to make a cheap, reusable lifter. Like the skylon plane. Hopefully the engine tests will go well next year.
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Richard Varvill, 2008: "When the project actually starts properly it will be about 12 to 15 years of engineering development before you have an actual, viable vehicle that you could start operating."

Don't hold your breath :p Of course, if HOTOL hadn't been ridiculously scrapped then we could well be seeing launches around now. We work together in space a lot more than you think. I'm not sure if pooling everything is a good idea - surely it's better to have various launch vehicles for various purposes which add many layers of redundancy than one which might not be best suited to many types of mission and if it gets grounded then you're stranded. I don't see much wrong with the popular current model now - that being one of cheap to make, cheap to fly but extremely reliable and versatile capsules for manned travel supported by various unmanned automated cargo ships, resupply vehicles and logistics carrying.

Why go to the moon? It would be a good place to set up a self-sufficient colony, which always helps with compartmentalisation. There are vast resources available to capture, not least of which being the possibility of creating solar cells from nothing more than moon dust. Lunar escape and orbit requires a much lower Delta V than Earth escape and orbit (not to mention all but complete lack of atmospheric drag), making it an invaluable stopping station or even spacecraft manufacturing centre (where orbital facilities are not practical), greatly increasing current capabilities. This also means that the ice on the moon would make a much more lucrative water supply than shipping it up from Earth. Etc, etc... it being 1AM and all :p
 
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