Yeah, and for that reason I can pretty much understand it and accept it. I'll be very concerned if there's a similar fuss at 20 years, though.
9/11; Never forget.
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Yeah, and for that reason I can pretty much understand it and accept it. I'll be very concerned if there's a similar fuss at 20 years, though.
RIP.
I don't really agree what has happened after 9/11 though, taking away freedoms so that you can have more freedom does not really make any sense to me.
Now they seem to use terrorism as a cover for other things
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110908/02534215846/wasnt-patriot-act-supposed-to-be-about-stopping-terrorism.shtml
I don't really agree what has happened after 9/11 though, taking away freedoms so that you can have more freedom does not really make any sense to me.
Now they seem to use terrorism as a cover for other things
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110908/02534215846/wasnt-patriot-act-supposed-to-be-about-stopping-terrorism.shtml
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I didn't say I didn't care did I.
I am just questioning the disproportionate importance placed on the deaths of these people in comparison to every other tragic loss people have suffered, that we should 'never forget' the ones involved here.
I will also spare a thought this weekend for the hundred thousand innocent civilians who lost their lives due to the retalliation by america after this event, lets 'never forget' them also...
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I agree with what you're saying but I think the very nature of the attack is the most shocking. Even though it is tragic, civilians get killed in wars on a daily basis whether it's intentional or not, living in a warzone carries those risks and even though it is no less tragic or important than those killed in the twin towers it could almost be expected you might say.
These people were just doing their 9-5 in a country and location where they should have felt safe, nobody could have imagined that the attack would have happened in that manner. Though I do agree there comes a point when people need to get on with their lives you can see why theres a big fuss about it this year with it being the 10 year anniversary.
We all deal with situations differently.Sorry but that has made me realy ANGRY!!..
Think before you type stuff like that!!
I thought it pretty funny and two colleagues of mine will be in that picture plus who knows how many more I passed pleasantries with in the lift or by the coffee machine.
I had briefly thought about looking for their faces then decided it would be a bit too much like.. looking for Waldo.
I can however see why people will find it offensive.
On the other hand that pic from cmjared makes no sense and is just pure spam.
9/11? Well it's my birthday on 28/11 and that's much more important.
On a more serious note, I don't really care. The people didn't do anything special, they aren't heroes. It's a tragedy that people died but it happens all the time. Remember those who put their lives on the line for our freedom, honour them. People who were at the wrong place at the wrong time? Sad, yes but I don't care that much.
On a more serious note, I don't really care. The people didn't do anything special, they aren't heroes. It's a tragedy that people died but it happens all the time. Remember those who put their lives on the line for our freedom, honour them. People who were at the wrong place at the wrong time? Sad, yes but I don't care that much.
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He's not off to a relaxing spa weekend I guess. What has happened since 11/9/2001 is perhaps more shameful than what happened in America.
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=20030082&postcount=159
Can I have both the joke and my birthday back please.
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My Reason over in the other 9/11 thread..
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=20036422&postcount=176
what i take from this then is that you're saying you only care because you knew someone personally in the building, but that then means you wouldn't care (o get angry like you have) if you didn't. bit silly then to get angry at someone who knew no one in the building for not caring as much as you. Try to be more open would be my suggestion
So by the same token you don't agree with remembrance for World wars because of equal empathy for all humans?
Or is it more because you don't like Americans?
It's a big moment in their limited history, hell we still remember a day when someone tried and failed to blow up parliament surely they can remember an act that had such impact on their own history.
This country went into meltdown when Princess Diana died, I think we can cut the yanks some slack on this one.
I agree, the patriot act and all of that malarkey is pretty shocking.
Whilst the loss of any life is a tragedy and of course I sympathise with those that lost loved ones 10 years ago this constant hand wringing by the US public and government is wearing a little thin.
Terrorism is a global problem and as much as a shock as it must have been, the US needs to remember it's not the only country to have been affected.
I'm afraid i'm old enough to remember the statements from the US "Irish American" community, particularly in New York and Boston throughout the 70s and 80s supporting (and indeed raising money for) those "gallant freedom fighters", the Provisional Irish Republican Army whilst they exploded bombs in shopping centres and stations around the UK murdering men, women and children.
None of which changes the loss families from all around the world, including the UK, suffered on Sept 11.
RIP
Terrorism is a global problem and as much as a shock as it must have been, the US needs to remember it's not the only country to have been affected.
I'm afraid i'm old enough to remember the statements from the US "Irish American" community, particularly in New York and Boston throughout the 70s and 80s supporting (and indeed raising money for) those "gallant freedom fighters", the Provisional Irish Republican Army whilst they exploded bombs in shopping centres and stations around the UK murdering men, women and children.
None of which changes the loss families from all around the world, including the UK, suffered on Sept 11.
RIP
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Yes so am I and when it happened and we all watched the 2nd aircraft go in I remember many of my collegues saying exactly what you just did and that it was nice to see them get a taste of terrorrism in their own country to see how they feel.
I bet they don't feel the same now with the affect it had on us as well.
On the contrary, I pay my respects every year on Remembrance Day, though strictly for the ending of WW1 the meaning has now expanded somewhat and I use the time to reflect on the loss of life in all conflicts.
I do dislike American culture and society yes, but I am able to differentiate my feelings between this and the individual of course. The same way as being English I joke about disliking the French, but I have a few very good french friends
Absolutely, I agree , for the Americans this is an unparralled event and one worthy of national remembrance, but what we have from them and all western media is not a private mourning of their own loss, for some reason we too are supposed to feel these people's deaths were so much worse than everyone elses and I'm sorry but I don't.
Anyway, I am not meaning to cast any disrespect on the pain for the people involved, they have my thoughts just like the millions of innocent people who have lost friends, relatives, loved ones since this event.
I wouldn't go as far as that and that certainly wasn't what I was saying, but I get what you mean.
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I'm sorry for the loss of life of the people who died in the attacks, but some of the things that America has done since using the WTC attacks as justification are rather unforgivable. 92,000 civilian deaths in Iraq, and a few thousand for every year in Afghanistan, as a result of Americas actions somewhat tarnishes the whole affair.
Wheres the memorial services for the Iraqi and Afghan civilians who have lost their lives? Oh yeah, there isnt any, because apparently a couple thousand American civilian lives are vastly more important than a hundred thousand foreign civilians lives.
but of course, they kinda have to blow it out of all porportion, and etch the event in the minds of every one of their citizens, so that they continue to think that Americas foreign actions are justified and continue to support and fund their military.
Wheres the memorial services for the Iraqi and Afghan civilians who have lost their lives? Oh yeah, there isnt any, because apparently a couple thousand American civilian lives are vastly more important than a hundred thousand foreign civilians lives.
but of course, they kinda have to blow it out of all porportion, and etch the event in the minds of every one of their citizens, so that they continue to think that Americas foreign actions are justified and continue to support and fund their military.
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Sure what happen in America was terrible but there seems to be lots of people who jump on the whole USA band wagon.
It's shameful the on the 7th of July the only mention of the bombings was a brief segment on the news, I believe the bigger story was the Beckhams child.
Today I look at Facebook and it's wall to wall never forget/ 9/11. There has been a week of 9/11 stuff on the tv etc...
I'm not entirely sure what everybody's fascination with the US is, sure their attack was of a huge scale but does that mean the attacks here were of less significance???
It's shameful the on the 7th of July the only mention of the bombings was a brief segment on the news, I believe the bigger story was the Beckhams child.
Today I look at Facebook and it's wall to wall never forget/ 9/11. There has been a week of 9/11 stuff on the tv etc...
I'm not entirely sure what everybody's fascination with the US is, sure their attack was of a huge scale but does that mean the attacks here were of less significance???