This is what consolers playing CS looks like...LOL!

Tefal said:
then what's the point?

why play in a more uncomfortable setting (dunno about you but sat on the floor using the coffee table as a desk for a mouse/kb is uncomfortable) which removes the main big plus of a console, and pay more for the game when you could just get it on the pc and have better controls (more mouse options and settings to get it just right) and graphics?

only reason i could ever see for buying a source game on the ps3 is if they give you the pc steam copy for free.
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The point would be to offer a larger equal playing field to a bigger market for cheaper. If it's the exact same gameplay experience to the user for cheaper, what's the beef?

Valve clearly see a reason for it, or they wouldn't be bothering.

NZXT30 said:
Orderoftheflame stop trolling there is no real kb/m support on consoles. Yes there are some kb/m available but the way they work makes them useless and not better than a pad. If there was proper kb/m support on console fps there would be a huge outcry due to a few guys destroying everybody.
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Trolling? Grow up. :rolleyes: In what way am I trolling? I'm not in the camp going "lol consoles" without actually making any point or validating my reasons. Just going by your sig, I realise you're in this camp.

UT3 supported K+M fully on the PS3 and allowed for separate servers to segregate mouse and pad players where wanted. I'd be amazed if CS:Go works any differently.
 
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Simi said:
I have a PC and a PS3 for gaming. The other night I wanted to play Shogun 2, so I booted it up and there was some problem with the sound cutting out all the time. Anyway, I tried to locate the problem and after checking everythin I decided I needed to find an update for my sound driver.

I went to the Asus site and grabbed the official driver. I then thought that it might be wise to update my graphics driver as it hadn't been done in a while so I did that too.

After installing them I eagerly booted the game back up only to find that the problem with the sound hadn't gone away. I tried it on tropico 3 and then on Just Cause 2 and the problem was also there too. I opened up my PC and reseated all the parts. Asus Xonar DG - checked and blown for dust and reseated as was the 5890 and the 8gb DDR3. Rebooted. Same problem.

I then found out about some unofficial sound card drivers. I tried them and they worked! Hooray! Now I can game (three hours later).
As I started the game it crashed to desktop - again and again. Damn it! So I rolled back my graphics drivers. Same problem.
I must have reseated something wrong.

So I did all that again, making sure to get everything right. Once I was satisfied, I started the PC back up. Same damn problem. So I uninstalled the graphics drivers fully and started again, reinstalling the new ones.

This time it worked. Between doing all that and searching the net for solutions, making tea and banging my head against a wall, four and a half hours had passed.

Yeah, PC gaming rocks.

Actually it does, but it's far from superior because so does my PS3 and so did my 360 (need to get one again - miss my Gears). When I put a game on my PS3, it just works.
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If you actually know what you're doing then you won't have these issues.

The worst issue I've had in the past few years /re gaming is having to update my graphics card drivers. OMG THE HUMANITY!
 
orderoftheflame said:
The point would be to offer a larger equal playing field to a bigger market for cheaper. If it's the exact same gameplay experience to the user for cheaper, what's the beef?

Valve clearly see a reason for it, or they wouldn't be bothering.
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I'm not a valve share holder, I'm not gabe, i am not interested in their bottom line, to me as a gamer what the **** is the point in paying more for an inferior experience?




UT3 supported K+M fully on the PS3 and allowed for separate servers to segregate mouse and pad players where wanted. I'd be amazed if CS:Go works any differently.
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is it actually supported or is it done like the 3rd party hardware for the 360 does and just uses mouse input to simulate joystick input but done internally instead of externally?
 
FrenchTart said:
If you actually know what you're doing then you won't have these issues.

The worst issue I've had in the past few years /re gaming is having to update my graphics card drivers. OMG THE HUMANITY!
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Yeah, and thats a pain because I've never once had to sit through a "this game needs an update to work" thing on a 360 or ps3, never. Likewise my ps3 has never everrrr crashed, neither has my 360, they both work perfectly, the whole RROD thing, never happened, console hardware is immune to failing, crashing, or being buggy, nothing ever goes wrong, I mean ever.



As for laptops vs desktops, stupid argument, firstly both are pc's, secondly, laptops are horrible, in terms of position of screen, height of screen, size of keyboard and its location next to the screen. You can of course use a separate keyboard, and screen, but that makes them a whole lot less portable.

Likewise cost, you go get yourself a laptop and an equivilent spec desktop, say with a 6950 vs a 6990 in a laptop, the desktop will cost closer to half as much. Now you want to upgrade the gpu to the next gen, a 7950 for £220 or to upgrade your laptop to a 7990........ wait an extra 6 months, then buy another brand new £2000 laptop, just to upgrade the graphics.

Laptops are retarded, there are certainly situations they are useful in, but I'd never, ever have one as a primary gaming computer, uncomftable, small screen, ludicrously expensive.

Likewise, a great laptop with a really top notch 1980x1080 big screen..... vs the cost of a 120hz 1920x1080 24" screen..... again I know which I'd choose. 3d, laptop ain't gonna do it(for me gimmicky crap though) surround gaming, nope, great speakers, not on the move they won't be.
 
Tefal said:
I'm not a valve share holder, I'm not gabe, i am not interested in their bottom line, to me as a gamer what the **** is the point in paying more for an inferior experience?
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As you're not a share holder and not Gabe why should they care what you as a single individual want? :confused:

They see that they can make money and increase the market for the game, good for them.

Tefal said:
is it actually supported or is it done like the 3rd party hardware for the 360 does and just uses mouse input to simulate joystick input but done internally instead of externally?
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Fully supported. You can install mods as well for UT3.
 
I have a gaming rig with 24" soon to be 30" and I would never get rid of it. But I still have a powerful 15" gaming laptop for downstairs and a reasonable HTPC just incase. :D

And a PS3 and 360 for playing with mates.

Gotta have em all really. Apart from a tablet and a wii. Those are just pointless. :)
 
God they have totally killed the competitive side of CS now. How noob that is, popups telling people to defend the bomb etc.
 
FrenchTart said:
You should probably read the OP...or the thread title. There's no competitive CS scene on the consoles...
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Valve seem to want a competitive GO scene (not necessarily on PC), with them inviting some pro's to test it. Really though I think they just want to give it some credibility before release and don't really expect much from PC users. They lose all CS credibility with the gameplay you can see in other videos. Its CZ for Source probably. Ranked Matchmaking would be nice, but they should just put it in Source. Or make a genuine CS sequel with CS gameplay, not dumb the gameplay down for gamepads
 
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Number_25 said:
Still laughing at the player though, he seems like someone who has never touched a controller before.
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He plays like someone who was a medieval peasant, who somehow became cryogenically frozen for the last thousand years, woke up a few days ago, and someone shoved a console in his face.
 
Ewaf said:
i know this, I am talking at PC. They are trying to cater for console ***** and ruining the pc version in the mean time.
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You haven't even seen the final pc version or know what Valve is planning.

A large number of people need to get off their high horse.
 
why would anyone want to play that on a console rather than just playing cs:s on any crummy old pc? cant see it appealing to newcomers (the gameplay will just seem dated to them), and experienced cs players will go for the PC version..
 
FrenchTart said:
If you actually know what you're doing then you won't have these issues.
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This statement is false.
I do know what I'm doing, yet still had the problem. Don't presume to know me.

I don't think I've seen a forum section so doggedly pompous and single minded with absolutely no scope for different experiences.
If this was 200 years ago this forum section would be burning people on a cross.

And for that reason, I'm out ;)
 
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Simi said:
This statement is false.
I do know what I'm doing, yet still had the problem. Don't presume to know me.

I don't think I've seen a forum section so doggedly pompous and single minded with absolutely no scope for different experiences.
If this was 200 years ago this forum section would be burning people on a cross.

And for that reason, I'm out ;)
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Bye! ;)
 
the whole PC gaming master race thing is BS though.

Fundamentally both devices are the same under the hood. They both have processors, motherboards, graphics processors, an operating system etc..

Just consoles cost <£200. The sort of rig that can play BF3 at max is going to be > £1000

THe amount of extra performance offered by the PC is proportional to the extra outlay. If you built a £180 PC, it would probably have a similar spec to the console hardware.
 
mjones1 said:
You haven't even seen the final pc version or know what Valve is planning.

A large number of people need to get off their high horse.
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Oh believe me if they do make the PC version nothing like console, i.e. preserving the high customisation of server side settings and scope for server plugins etc. I will be over the moon. I just think they are trying to follow COD into the console market, and neglect the PC. It's exactly what COD did. COD2 = Best COD. COD:MW = pretty good, then it just went straight down hill.
 
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