protesters burn us flag in london
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Who draws the line at is being reported, it's a step towards censorship?
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People are much more easily controlled when they are fighting amongst each other. That way people blame the fake enemy and don't look at the real problem which is the military industrial complex and corrupt government.
Create the enemy (in this case the radical Islam) then perpetuate the myth in the media by false flag terror attacks and complete fabricated incidents (underpants bomber one example). Then create situations where conflict arises and organizations such as edl form in retaliation (the protestors at the luton march).
All controlled opposition and manipulation.
But i am sure many would disagree.
Create the enemy (in this case the radical Islam) then perpetuate the myth in the media by false flag terror attacks and complete fabricated incidents (underpants bomber one example). Then create situations where conflict arises and organizations such as edl form in retaliation (the protestors at the luton march).
All controlled opposition and manipulation.
But i am sure many would disagree.
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Care to elaborate? Why not post your opinion of the topic rather than take just a pop at me?
All I've done is post a news article and given my opinion on how I feel about it. As the forum has discussed different views, my own have changed slightly as I've heard peoples differing opinions.
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why would burning the US flag offend anyone else other than Americans ? The west is actually more than just America you know, and I couldn't give a damn if any nut-case groups chose to burn the US flag, personally I'd wipe my ass with their flag considering how much strife they have got this country into with their war warmongering ways and our previous lap dog administration.
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why would burning the US flag offend anyone else other than Americans ? .
its more the date it was done tbh. the UK had victims in this to and to burn the flag of the country it happened in on the day it happened kinda takes the **** imo.
perhaps im reading to much into it just remembering what happened has got my emotinos running a little high.
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c'mon RDM you must have known what was meant by that, obviously ill agree with you that not all people in the USA are "terrorists" because that would be stupid.
If you like ill rephrase it to "An undisclosed percentage of the U.S Army and PMC's under the blessing of it's corrupt goverments both past and present regularly perpetrate act's of murder, genocide, rape, theft and slavery in the middle east"
Then they get upset when these same people in these countries they have bombed or imposed economic sanctions on burn an american flag or hold a protest. lol
And have you noticed that it's namely the poor nations with little to no chance of fighting back the good Ol' USA goes to war with? The last white nation they fought was the germans in WW2, since then it's been the worlds bully.
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This annoyed me, normally turn a blind eye to these reports as it's just going in circles, but this is stupid.
Red tape gone? My ****.
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Don't forget the date also has meaning for them. For that was the start of America's "we come in peace, shoot to kill" policy of pre-emptive warfare AKA the bush doctrine.
Those people have had The USA's (and our's) boot on their neck for the last 10 years.....they have had a thousand times the loss of life than ground zero. And you want them to respect that day? that day lives in infamy for them.
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...or publish a cartoon that "offends" them thats all it takes remember to get these people onto the flag burning.
Infact iirc christians in africa were killed because of the above.
yep - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4728616.stm
Islamofacist morons.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-IrzJ q f TQA
stupid asterisk ruining my link
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But the problem is when buring the American flag, saying that the chickens have come home to roost and generally thinking that the Americans had 9/11 coming that is exactly what people are doing. Did the people that died on 9/11 have it coming despite having nothing to do with what the US did abroad?
And muslims get all upset when someone burns a Koran due to the actions of some muslim fundamentalists. But it seems that it is morally OK to upset the americans?
All the US has been doing is what all the other empire builders have done and that is fight for what it percieves to be it's own interests. Not really sure why the colour of their opponents matter, are you trying to suggest the US is somehow racist in it's foreign policy?
To say that they have only ever acted as a bully is possibly being a bit blinkered too. They weren't a bully during the Korean war nor during the first Gulf War. Several more of their interventions were also at the request of governments or the UN.
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No not at all. That was the fault of their goverment. And before it's said yes you can get your tinfoil hat on because I am of the opinion that it was an inside job (gulf of tonkin ect ect) but that's by-the-by as they say.
The difference is one is viewed as a holy book and the other is a piece of cloth. Big difference really.
While I am not saying they are racist what i am saying is they are bullies that are cherry picking their targets. When was the last time the american's tried bombing the likes of Russia? or China? They also have rescourses they can exploit but noooooo they wouldnt dare. The amount of casualties they would recieve in the event of a major war with any country in the word with a modern army scares the **** out of them.
So they go for the easiest. Kind of like a pro games player going into a noob friendly server and pwning them while thinking he's fantastic for doing it.
Why is it? their track record speaks for itself. Especially when it comes to the middle east & Isreal As for the UN interventions well they have their power of veto as one of the 5 permenant members and seem to abuse that to on a regular basis. So they can pretty much dop as they like, and be involved in the conflicts they want to be involved in. If you want to convince me that they are guardians of morality then why was the genocide in Darfur and many other places allowed to happen?
Regarding the Veto's, A shameless Wiki quote:
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They did it to themselves eh? I seem to feel the chance of rational debate has started to plummet...
Very little difference when you consider the defference many Americans have for their flag. To you the American flag is just a piece of cloth, to me, and many others, the Koran is just words on paper.
You don't think MAD has anything to do with it? Not to mention that they did come very close to a shooting war with the USSR on more than one occassion. Not to mention it is not in the US interests to get into a major war with one of the other world powers.
Welcome to international politics...since when did major powers mess with other major powers without a very good reason?
Who said they were guardians or morality? They didn't intervene in the (muslim) genocide in Darfur because it wasn't in their national interest to do so. no one did. And the veto allows them to stop resolutions, it doesn't allow them to get any resolution through. I would still say that in Korea and Gulf War 1, the US was on the side of the good guys, or at least the non bad guys. Unless of course you think invading Kuwait was the right thing for Saddam to do and that Kim was just misunderstood...
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Not at all. I can have an opinion on things just the same as you. Why do you think i mentioned the "tin foil hat" in the first place? because i have seen how people of a similar opinion are treated on here but i don't need to get on a high horse about it.
Both are of equal unimportance to me. I am neither an American nor am i a Muslim so i have no need to defend either. Yet by the same token i won't hold one above the other.
Exactly.
Maybe so. But rather than keep out of any disputes or conflicts it has no cause to be in the US shoves itself into these things. One thing i have noticed about them over the last 20 years or so is that they love to get into these wars but hate taking any casualties of their own, despite causing the most civilian deaths.
Sorry but the bottom line of this is that his invasion of Kuwait was none of our buisness. The ony reason we intervened at all was not for the sake of civilians or some trumped up exscuse of doing the right thing. it was for oil. pure and simple. Just like when they invaded iraq looking for those oh-so-elusive phantom WMD's where was their 1st target? the damn oil fields. That is all it has ever been about in the middle east. america doesnt care less about the civilians it kills, or the damage it does. it just wants the oil.