Internet troll sentenced to 18 weeks in jail.

Forde said:
In the eyes of this country's law and, might I say, a judge with FAR more experience and qualification than any of us here, he committed a crime, how are people not understanding this?

Commit a crime and get punished. It's a simple equation, boys. And if the nature of that punishment is considered harsh by other people? Well that's the chance you take when YOU MAKE THE DECISION to harm an innocent person.

He made that decision, time and time and time again, yet you seem to be defending his rights far more than the many innocent families he brought misery to at their most vulnerable moment. Nice.
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Ah, I see. A higher authority than the likes of you or i handed down the sentence so it must be just, right and fair. How dare we question a judge?

It scares me that aol many people are willing to lie back and not question.
 
compboyo said:
Why do all these people always say they have aspergers.
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A LOT of internet dwellers think they have at least some form of aspergers. That amount of times I've seen people say they have it in one form or another is bordering on meme levels.
 
Joshy said:
Ah, I see. A higher authority than the likes of you or i handed down the sentence so it must be just, right and fair. How dare we question a judge?

It scares me that aol many people are willing to lie back and not question.
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Why do you feel that just because the abuse is on the internet rather than printed, spoken or using the telephone that it should be allowed? Or do you also think that it should not be a crime to call people up and abuse them about their dead daughter? Print leaflets and drop them round to friends and relatives houses? Stand at a funeral shouting abuse?
 
This is exactly the type of crime that can be thwarted early on by the police having a word with him and warning him to stop. Someone said he did this persistently so I assume it was done over a period of time rather than just one day.

Unfortunately, the police don't do "chats" - that would be far too simple. It's more like "compu'er says crime committed... errr... your under arrest".

Joshy said:
Ah, I see. A higher authority than the likes of you or i handed down the sentence so it must be just, right and fair. How dare we question a judge?

It scares me that aol many people are willing to lie back and not question.
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People like him scare me too. Not an ounce if free thought and just does whatever he's told like a good little sheepie. If Crown Court judges are infallible why does the Court of Appeal exist? :o
 
Ok, let's see whether he is able to appeal and if so, what happens next. Otherwise, for now, he has been found guilty of a crime.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Ok, let's see whether he is able to appeal and if so, what happens next. Otherwise, for now, he has been found guilty of a crime.
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Of course he's able to appeal :confused: I doubt it will be successful merely due to the publicity that it has already received. More expense for the taxpayer when he tries though.

edit: I see he got just over 4 months - clever judge. He will be released on licence after 2 months and the appeal will normally take that long anyway.
 
Families should have just deleted his comments, blocked him and got on with their lives instead of whinging. It's a sad state of affairs when you can walk down the street and punch someone to the floor and get less of a punishment and sentence, than someone who was obviously out to be a grade A ******* by trolling Facebook.
 
RDM said:
Why do you feel that just because the abuse is on the internet rather than printed, spoken or using the telephone that it should be allowed? Or do you also think that it should not be a crime to call people up and abuse them about their dead daughter? Print leaflets and drop them round to friends and relatives houses? Stand at a funeral shouting abuse?
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Firstly I feel that you cannot really control and moderate what people are going to say at a funeralor post through your letterbox nearly as easily as you can moderate a face book page or your emails.

Secondly I am questioning at what point does being insensitive actually come a crime? Why are tasteless jokes after even such as the Japanese tsunami perfectly socially acceptable but something like this is so horrible? Thousands of innocent people die, that's okay to lul about, but a blonde white girl tops herself and making lulz are completely out of the question. How does that work?
 
gambitt said:
Of course he's able to appeal :confused: I doubt it will be successful merely due to the publicity that it has already received. More expense for the taxpayer when he tries though.

edit: I see he got just over 4 months - clever judge. He will be released on licence after 2 months and the appeal will normally take that long anyway.
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Why is he "of course" able to appeal? Leave to appeal is not always granted. I'm not aware of the specifics in this case, but there is no "of course" about it that I know of.
 
Joshy said:
Firstly I feel that you cannot really control and moderate what people are going to say at a funeralor post through your letterbox nearly as easily as you can moderate a face book page or your emails.

Secondly I am questioning at what point does being insensitive actually come a crime? Why are tasteless jokes after even such as the Japanese tsunami perfectly socially acceptable but something like this is so horrible? Thousands of innocent people die, that's okay to lul about, but a blonde white girl tops herself and making lulz are completely out of the question. How does that work?
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Referring to harassment as "lulz" makes you sound really big and clever.
 
Al Vallario said:
No, I don't think it should be a crime to call a person an abuse them about their dead daughter. It's a rather distasteful thing to do, but the law should not extend to such trivial things. If I were on the receiving end, I would put the phone down, and if it became a course of action, block the phone number in question.

I would also have no problem with a person printing leaflets and dropping them round friends' and relatives' houses.

Standing at a funeral shouting abuse is where you get a meaningful difference. Many draw the line on free speech on the ability of those who are offended to avoid that speech. If they are being subjected to offensive speech while at a funeral, they cannot practically avoid it.
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If that's honestly how you feel, then you are, in the truest sense of the word, a freak.
 
Joshy said:
Thousands of innocent people die, that's okay to lul about, but a blonde white girl tops herself and making lulz are completely out of the question. How does that work?
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The facebook page was a page of remembrance, it's effectively like graffiti on a war memorial, it's disrespectful and should be punished.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Why is he "of course" able to appeal? Leave to appeal is not always granted. I'm not aware of the specifics in this case, but there is no "of course" about it that I know of.
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It's a strange system but yes he can still go ahead. When you start the appeal process, it goes to one judge at the CoA. He can grant leave to appeal but even if he doesn't, the prisoner can still decide to continue with the appeal process where 3 new judges decide his fate a few weeks/months later (depending on length of sentence). Of course it is far less likely to succeed if the first judge hasn't granted leave but by this point the taxpayers money is already spent.
 
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