Dale Farm Cleared Tomorrow?

maccapacca said:
Does that include the children and the old and sick?
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If you believe I was being serious, then of course. Please feel free to feel offended. :)

I love their argument that they need to stay in order to send their children to school, yet the local school that now has the majority of it's pupils coming from the camp has the highest absenteeism rate in the country. 53% if I remember correctly.

They know how to play the human rights legislation like a fiddle.
 
Al Vallario said:
It's not all that far-fetched that a Marxist from Germany would make an appearance at a protest hugely attractive to a Marxist, not too far from Germany, though, is it? :p
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If the Daily Mail told me the sky was blue, I'd seek independent verification. In of itself, it's not all that far fetched, no, but if the Daily Mail is your only source, then you have no reliable evidence. They have a history of stirring the pot by distorting the truth or just plain lying, which is why linking to their site and quoting large chunks of an article for information about the travellers is mentally poisonous.
 
Let them stay, however investigate each and every one of them for tax evasion, benefit fraud, criminal activity, fly tipping, unsocial behaviour etc.....

They will soon move on if they think they might have to actually contribute to the society that supports them.
 
I feel they should be able to stay; though the state should knock down all of the structures they have put up without planning permission.

The police should also be taking a more serious stance on the crimes which the scummy ones commit.
 
UncleRuckus said:
I feel they should be able to stay.
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I don't really understand the ins and outs of all this, but i find myself asking where are they all suppose to go.

I personally would allow them to stay, make it legal and then charge them for the privilege.
 
HNR1 said:
I don't really understand the ins and outs of all this, but i find myself asking where are they all suppose to go.

I personally would allow them to stay, make it legal and then charge them for the privilege.
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One thing they've all been saying is that the council hasn't helped them with a contingency plan for when they're kicked out...except the council has. It's offered them bricks and mortar accommodation as an alternative. But they won't accept that as it goes against their cultural principles. They want land to be provided for them to 'travel' on.

Well where's my free land!?
 
HNR1 said:
I don't really understand the ins and outs of all this, but i find myself asking where are they all suppose to go.

I personally would allow them to stay, make it legal and then charge them for the privilege.
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Well how I understand it and base my opinion on is that they own the land and most the buildings they are using to dwell in are not static.

Though I think the dwellings which have been build without the planning permission should be torn down it applies to the rest of us; they should not be excluded from this.
 
Al Vallario said:
Most of the buildings they live in may be mobile, but the fact remains there should be no residential dwellings on the site, nor should there be any structures at all. No hardcore, no brick walls, no fences, etc.
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I would like to by some woodland one day and make a temporary dwelling for myself and I would feel a bit of a hypocrite to tell them not to and do it myself. But my idea of temp dwelling is a log hut :)

The hardcore, the brick walls etc should all be torn down too and fine applied when they cannot keep and area clean.
 
PermaBanned said:
They did pay for it :p
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The stuff they're currently on, yes, but they were asking for another site to be allocated to them. Which I guess they'd pay for, thinking about it :p...but I still don't see why they expect land to be provided to them outside of the normal process of the sale of land, just cause they live in caravans.:o
 
I wouldn't be surprised if the council gave in and granted them change of use so that they could stay on the land. I also wouldn't be surprised if 6 months later a load of massive ****** turned up and evicted everyone so they could sell this now prime development capable land to the highest bidder.
 
Robbie G said:
The stuff they're currently on, yes, but they were asking for another site to be allocated to them. Which I guess they'd pay for, thinking about it :p...but I still don't see why they expect land to be provided to them outside of the normal process of the sale of land, just cause they live in caravans.:o
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No, actually they were just asking for permission to use all the land they own.
 
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