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You speak as though everybody is swallowing the marketing hook line and sinker. The majority of us have taken everything said with a very large pinch of salt.

i know not all swallow the marketing bs games companies tell you but a big majority do look at this game for prime eg :p "oh its a proper pc game " not console then just before release ps3 gets exclusive content first (haha)

all you have to do with any game is look to what the company is doing to market the game weaknesses and strengths and who buys the biggest percentage that will often govern how the game will be . they dont love us they make money that is all. they dont care if its pc or console they just want money .

as for new engine it will be a lot of what they have done already and polished well just like any other team who makes games.
 
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i "oh its a proper pc game " not console then just before release ps3 gets exclusive content first (haha)

And that somehow negates the fact that the game was developed primarily on pc? Seriously what way does your brain work to even come up with a connection like that, ps3 getting access to a map pack first means in your little mind that its not a true pc game?

DERP much?
 
Movement could probably be duplicated to probably any engine with trial and error.

Indeed. Which makes more sense though - spending time and resources making something new which exactly emulates something old or just re-using the old?

It's not.

It's a hell of a lot more complicated than an updated Frostbite 1 engine.

Especially since it's the first engine built using the DX11 API fully and 64-bit architecture. Not just an add-on.

I really don't want to bog down the thread with technical facts because everybody just goes quiet. :p

Whilst I agree they'll have certain thing from previous engines, it's not just DX11 slapped onto frostbite 1.5.

It deals with resources completely differently and just better.

I'm not saying that it is just DX11 slapped on to Frostbite 1.5. What I am saying is that it is an incremental improvement on the older engine and not so different as some people are claiming with their "you'll need a 6990 or SLI 580s to run in ultra settings". It may well require those things but if it does it's due to something being done wrong, not because they've created an entire new engine from scratch.

What they have done is taken the base for FB1.5 and slapped on new netcode, a new renderer and changed the way it can handle patches. It's really not as exciting as the marketing would have you believe.
 
And that somehow negates the fact that the game was developed primarily on pc? Seriously what way does your brain work to even come up with a connection like that, ps3 getting access to a map pack first means in your little mind that its not a true pc game?

DERP much?

If anything it means they haven't gotten the numbers they were expecting for the playstation platform so are offering a "lucrative" deal to get more people to buy in. In no way does it mean they're aiming at the consoles over the PC...
 
Indeed. Which makes more sense though - spending time and resources making something new which exactly emulates something old or just re-using the old?

Already said on the last page that new engines still can make use of older code if it works well :) Theyve obviously reused some of the stuff, but in the end id imagine most of the new stuff is new and not just updated.
 
And that somehow negates the fact that the game was developed primarily on pc? Seriously what way does your brain work to even come up with a connection like that, ps3 getting access to a map pack first means in your little mind that its not a true pc game?

DERP much?

Can't argue with your point on that one.
 
Already said on the last page that new engines still can make use of older code if it works well :)

I think you're missing the point.

And I'm sadly going to have to do something more productive than argue on the forums for the rest of the day :/ I'm sure we'll be proven right or wrong soon enough.
 
Indeed. Which makes more sense though - spending time and resources making something new which exactly emulates something old or just re-using the old?



I'm not saying that it is just DX11 slapped on to Frostbite 1.5. What I am saying is that it is an incremental improvement on the older engine and not so different as some people are claiming with their "you'll need a 6990 or SLI 580s to run in ultra settings". It may well require those things but if it does it's due to something being done wrong, not because they've created an entire new engine from scratch.

What they have done is taken the base for FB1.5 and slapped on new netcode, a new renderer and changed the way it can handle patches. It's really not as exciting as the marketing would have you believe.

Yeah I do agree the hardware requirements won't be as extreme as that unless running at 5k x 1080 resolution.

Is that opinion or got a source for that? :p I don't believe it's an incremental update. I believe they have learned from their previous engines but done a lot more work than what you have just said.

And just fyi, BF3 was in development before BC2.
 
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Yeah I do agree the hardware requirements won't be as extreme as that unless running at 5k x 1080 resolution.

Is that opinion or got a source for that? :p I don't believe it's an incremental update. I believe they have learned from their previous engines but done a lot more work than what you have just said.

I don't have a source it's just my opinion based on what I've seen of the alpha and all the usual marketing sources.

Really have to dash now. As above, I'm sure we'll find out one way or another soon.
 
And that somehow negates the fact that the game was developed primarily on pc? Seriously what way does your brain work to even come up with a connection like that, ps3 getting access to a map pack first means in your little mind that its not a true pc game?

DERP much?


ok so why give a "pc" game to console first ? please explain that . im all ears .
 
ok so why give a "pc" game to console first ? please explain that . im all ears .

Where are you seeing this "giving to consoles first" malarkey?

Take straight from the Battlefield website:

BATTLEFIELD 3 BETA FAQ
WHAT ARE THE DATES FOR THE BETA?
THE OPEN BETA STARTS SEPTEMBER 29TH ON XBOX 360, PLAYSTATION 3, AND PC. THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY PRE-ORDERED THE PC DIGITAL DOWNLOAD VERSION OF BATTLEFIELD 3 THROUGH ORIGIN OR OWN THE LIMITED/TIER 1 EDITION OF MEDAL OF HONOR FOR XBOX 360, PLAYSTATION 3 OR PC, WILL HAVE EARLY ACCESS STARTING ON SEPTEMBER 27TH. THE OPEN BETA ENDS ON OCTOBER 10TH.
 
not on about beta on about exlusive content which ps3 gets first a week before us .

out of interest bfbc2 sold about 19 million units maybe 20 million now :eek:

anyone got figures on how many for pc xbox and ps3 ?

would be nice to see who there target audience is ;)

Interestingly, 53 percent of BC2 sales went to the Xbox 360 version, followed by 31 percent and 16 percent of sales for the PS3 and PC, respectively.
 
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