Female body builders, just why?

[cu3ed]

But he's still a bodybuilder...

No, he is not, stop thinking that everyone that lifts weights is in the practice of being a BB'er.

I drive a car to work fast.. doesn't make me a rally driver, and so the same remains, a BB'er is a professional who is working and developing a carrier from the sport, whether that be a starter trying to earn their pro card where they get to enter competitions that actually have cash prizes, to guys on the Olympia stage and guys in the 202 class.

Everyone else is just lifting weights at the gym.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

But he's still a bodybuilder...

a bit like beating your head against a wall with this lot.

the guys you see in those magazines are at the extreme end of the scale. just like fat women you might get a fat bird at 10-12 stone who is still regarded as decent looking because she is slightly chubby, then you get a 30 stone monster who makes you feel physically sick to look at her. they are both still fat, just one is much more extreme.

like i said before i do not find women who use steroids attractive, but i do find women who body build attractive, as they will have a much smaller amount of muscle than those at the extreme end of the scale.

 

[G-MAN2004]

Bodybuilding

The process of developing the musculature of the body through specific types of diet and physical exercise, such as weightlifting, especially for competitive exhibition.

Developing of the physique through exercise and diet, often for competitive exhibition.

"often" - but not always.

Sigh.

 

[Psycho Sonny]

No, he is not, stop thinking that everyone that lifts weights is in the practice of being a BB'er.

I drive a car to work fast.. doesn't make me a rally driver, and so the same remains, a BB'er is a professional who is working and developing a carrier from the sport, whether that be a starter trying to earn their pro card where they get to enter competitions that actually have cash prizes, to guys on the Olympia stage and guys in the 202 class.

Everyone else is just lifting weights at the gym.

you clearly do not know what the definition of a rally driver is

"Rallying, also known as rally racing, is a form of auto racing that takes place on public or private roads with modified production or specially built road-legal cars. This motorsport is distinguished by running not on a circuit, but instead in a point-to-point format in which participants and their co-drivers drive between set control points (special stages), leaving at regular intervals from one or more start points. Rallies may be won by pure speed within the stages or alternatively by driving to a predetermined ideal journey time within the stages."

you do not become a rally driver just by driving fast

 

[cu3ed]

Wow...really...you really missed the meaning behind what I said by that much....really?....REALLY?

 

[G-MAN2004]

If you still think the same despite a dictionary definition proving you wrong, then I give up.

Goodnight.

 

[Amp34]

If you still think the same despite a dictionary definition proving you wrong, then I give up.

Goodnight.

So someone who picks up a pair of 5km dumb bells as part of their 20 minute excercise is a bodybuilder?

 

[Aedus]

So someone who picks up a pair of 5km dumb bells as part of their 20 minute excercise is a bodybuilder?

5km dumbells? They're a bit long aren't they?


This is the way I see it:
Bodybuilding is set apart by your goals, not just by what you do.

If your goal by picking up a weight and doing an exercise is to build muscle and increase your muscle strength, then it's classed as bodybuilding, it doesn't matter if it's a 2.5kg weight or a 100kg weight, the purpose of you picking up that weight has the same goal. If you pick up a weight with the goal of just becoming stronger, then that's not bodybuilding, if you pick up a weight with the intention to "Tone" *Shudder* then that's not bodybuilding either.



It's like people who go for a run, they're not a "runner", they're just running. What sets them apart from running to being a runner? A runner has the goal of being a runner, someone running is just someone running.

 

[drunkenmaster]

"often" - but not always.

Sigh.

Just to be specific, a 30stone overweight guy follows a specific diet, and specific physical exercise, and improves his musculature aswell

You'll find a 30stone fatty has FAR more muscle than a 10stone "normal" bloke, hence your definition is wrong.

Quite literally because anyone building a body, is a body builder, you get bigger you increase your size, fat people do this, kids do this, about the only people you can't LITERALLY describe as body building are old people who are shrinking, then again, they do build new muscle cells as we do until we die, even after we die we grow parts of our body for hours/days afterwards(hair and nails).

So if you want to be completely literal for the sake of argument........ that works both ways

In reality, the VAST majority of people talking about "body builders" are talking about people trying to get huge, not just fit, or relatively strong, but huge.

Either way I don't much care, I saw some picks of Jodie Marsh today that I don't think were really her and thought this thread might have something about that in. She supposedly went from 25% fat to 10% fat in 50 days and then some pictures of her in a women's body building comp, but I assumed the woman in the pics was seriously below 10% body fat(though women are higher than mens, not sure what competition body fat levels are for women.

 

[kwerk]

lolkwerk

you do know what a call out is dont you?

usually there is a reason for calling someone out and it isn't because they called you out?

why am i getting called out?

have i made ludicrous claims somewhere that i have as much muscle mass as a bodybuilder who's picture was posted on here?

i called you out because you did the above not me, then we all laughed when we saw your picture as your claims were false.

i could post a leg shot, if you come up with a legitimate reason, showing calve flexed and unflexed and quadricep too.

Post an upper body shot like I did. Nobody cares about bloody calfs. My guess is you're probably a soft indistinguishable blob who lifts weights in your parent's spare bedroom and it's impossible to tell if you've ever touched a weight from looking at you.

Here's another guess I probly have more muscle mass than you and I don't even lift weights at all!

Come on and prove me otherwise. Put up or shut up.

 

[kwerk]

Sorry, you bodybuild in your parent's spare bedroom.

 

[kwerk]

If you pee out more than trace amounts either way I'd be getting down to the Dr's.
Protein utilization is a bell curve there is obviously an optimum amount that promotes muscle growth but if your body needs it to build muscle it will use it to build muscle never mind how long its been sat in your gut.
I'd claim that potato would give you the bigger insulin response purely because the snickers contains a fair amount of fat which would slow digestion and therefore give a more stable rise in blood sugar levels.

Excess protein gets turned to urea and peed out. From what I've been reading it doesn't turn to fat because your liver can only process it very slowly, and there's no reason to convert it to glucose if your energy needs are being met from carbs and fats. That's why people have gotten 'rabbit starvation' because rabbit meat is so lean they don't get enough fat for energy and they can't process the protein fast enough for energy and they starve to death even though they have unlimited meat to eat.

Although that could be wrong, it's next to impossible to find decent info on this stuff on google. It's all seems to be hearsay on blogs and forums extrapolated from barely relevant studies.

 

[Richie]

I cant believe the people arguing semantics about what body building is. Even quoting dictionary definitions which is just, well, sad really.

Everyone (apart from the pedants) know what bodybuilding is IN THE REAL WORLD and it is NOT someone that lifts some weights to get a lean body with generally good definition e.g. like that Mark Whalberg picture that was posted.

This thread could have been half the size if people would get over their egos and quit arguing semantics.... If ever the "arguing over the internet" picture was more apt, it is here.

 

[Steedie]

To me a bodybuilder is someone who follows the lifestyle outside the gym as well as in it. If you go to the gym, lift some weights and then get home, eat rubbish and don't even think about a healthy lifestyle, you're not a bodybuilder

If you go to the gym, go home and have a structured diet, take an interest and thnk about your workouts so you best improve your physique, rather than just do whatever machine is closest, you are a bodybuilder

You don't need to compete, and you don't need to be huge, you just need to follow a mind set and a lifestyle

 

[wannabedamned]

Sorry, you bodybuild in your parent's spare bedroom.

Whats wrong with that? I do my 3 day split at home, Free weights and a properly installed pullup bar. Its all you need.

 

['Wes]

Whats wrong with that? I do my 3 day split at home, Free weights and a properly installed pullup bar. Its all you need.

I wouldn't waste your time replying to Kwerk, it's what keeps him going.

 

[steve-h]

The problem is there is a line, where do you draw it?

Do you say anyone that uses weights is a bodybuilder? In which case 99% of people that go to the gym (and probably 99% adults as a whole at some point in their lifetime) are bodybuilders.

Do you say someone who uses weights as part of a general fitness regime is a bodybuilder? Someone for example that spends an hour or more doing cardio then tacks on 20-30 minutes at the end with mid weight weights.

Do you say people that spend most of their time in a gym in the free weights area? People that do very little of anything else.

Personally I'd suggest the last is the only bodybuilder in those three. Several people in here seem to suggest that all would be considered bodybuilders... Then there are the several people (me included at one point) who do the second option, using weights as a a small part of a general fitness regime, they (and I) don't appear to think they are bodybuilders.

While obviously you can't have everyone separated into three nice seperate sections my experience at the gym was that only the last group were the traditional meatheads. Now I'd assume that women generally prefer the middle option as well. Nice physique, with some nicely showing muscle in the right places and lowish bodyfat, not the bulging neck muscles and huge arms.

EDIT: And in the context of this thread "bodybuilder" certainly seems to be defined as the third group, with the female fitness models being the equivilent of the second group.

bod·y·build·ing/ˈbädēˌbildiNG/
Noun: The practice of strengthening and enlarging the muscles of the body through exercise.

Bodybuilding is a form of body modification, involving intensive muscle hypertrophy. An individual who engages in this activity is referred to as a bodybuilder.

Simple as that really? I train to enlarge my muscles, therefore I am a bodybuilder. I take part in the Mr Olympia... I am a professional bodybuilder.

 

[MoNkeE]

By the way some people in here are reasoning, if you put paint strokes to canvas in your own home, you're not a painter or an artist. Apparently only people like Da Vinci and Michaelangelo can take that title!

 

[shifty_uk]

I would love to see anyone achieve his body and maintain it all year round simply by doing manual labour.

Never happening.

You do realise he's dead because of a heart condition as a result of severe steroid abuse? Just sayin'.

Despite that physique being highly achievable natural, albeit far stricter on the diet!

 

[steve-h]

You do realise he's dead because of a heart condition as a result of severe steroid abuse? Just sayin'.

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