Forza 4

I'm a pretty poor racing driver and manage to control the car fine on simulation settings, just with braking line on, I also have a bandage on my left thumb lol managing to finish in top 5 on Hard difficulty.
 
The driving model feels quite nice on this one. The cockpit view is completely usable too.
 
Just had one run through each of the races and a go at the rivals in the Zonda - beat my rival on lap 2, but my time was still rubbish.

Rivals mode looks like fun. Feels like a hotlap equivalent of Autolog from the NFS games.

I like the car selection in the demo. The Mercury swings about like mad, the Subaru is very grippy and the Ferrari is really good fun and well balanced. The Zonda in the rivals mode is great fun too, and the sound when you get to the top end of the revs in 3rd gear... I almost came.

This may be the game that persuades me to use the in car camera. It took me ages to actually read the controls that flash up, so I was racing around trying to figure out how to change the view, by which time I found I was actually enjoying driving in the cockpit. It feels a lot better to me than FM3 did, I don't know why. The handling is nice and responsive, so I feel like I can actually catch the car when it slides, or brake in time before I ram someone in the back.

I like the sense of speed. When you start to get up to speed in the 458 and your view is shaking, it looks really cool.

The AI seems more promising. I was racing on hard and not doing a terrible job, but I'm sure I'd still suck on professional or whatever the top one is called. It seemed like it was actually making some mistakes, and then trying to take advantage of other cars' mistakes, and attempting some more audacious passes and so on.

I'll give it some more time this week.
 
Understeer issue is non-existent. Yes you can make them understeer, hit a corner too late in the scoob and it will understeer like crazy but get the speed right and nail the power after the apex and it handles like it should.

Also very easy to control, so easy to knock it into each corner with a bit of 4wd drift, and follow it through into the next one! Loving it! :)
 
looks like f4 has got the same gay steering assist as f3, even when sim steering is selected, the theory is that when correcting the car and you steer more than 90 degrees the wheel turns to 270 degree mode from 900 degree, so get super quick counter steer making the car easier to control when the rears steps.

apparently mr greenwalt is blaming the wheel and not the game.



 
^^^^ That would help explain some of my earlier thoughts:

Physics wise it feels great, the cars feel more 'planted' and you can tell the tyre model is improved over the previous game. The Subaru particularly feels just how it should, it behaves just like the real car does on the edge. I must say that the Mercury (muscle car) was strange, it feels heavy and oversteery just like it should but it seems waaaay too easy to hold a massive high speed drift. Huge fun, but it just seems a little too easy, and yes I do have all assists off. The Ferrari feels fantastic though, it behaves just as you would expect it to.

Counter steer assist like that makes sense if using a normal xbox controller in 'normal' mode, but the 'simulation' steering setting is supposed to be a 1:1 mapping of the wheel input, that was the whole point of that setting :/
 
looks like f4 has got the same gay steering assist as f3, even when sim steering is selected, the theory is that when correcting the car and you steer more than 90 degrees the wheel turns to 270 degree mode from 900 degree, so get super quick counter steer making the car easier to control when the rears steps.

apparently mr greenwalt is blaming the wheel and not the game.

This is only interesting for fanatec wheel users that wants to use REAL 900 degree steering in Forza Motorsport 4. Forza Motorsport 4 still doesn’t support 900 degree automaticly… When your wheel is set on 900 degree Forza will think it react like a 270 degree wheel. It has been like that in Forza Motorsport 3 aswell. While in Forza 2 it was perfect apart from the Force Feedback being to weak.

There is a fix for this!

When booting up your wheel you can make 5 different presets on your wheel. If you want to use S_1 as your main preset configure that with the 900 degree settings. Now you go make a second preset S_2. For that you have to configure the wheel with the Sensitivity set on 250 degree. Now boot up your wheel again and set it the second preset S_2 (Do this BEFORE connecting it to your xbox!). now connect it your xbox while it’s being set on preset S_2. When it is connected you can switch it back to Preset 1 S_1 (Do this without disconnection your wheel from xbox or turning your whole wheel off).

You should now have the full 900 degree support with still every feature on the wheel working. And it has very good Force Feedback!
 
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