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AMD Bulldozer Finally!

I wasn't being serious ;)
If you need 8 threads ; 8150 > 2600k, I've said that consistently.

And I'm far from assuming all rumours are true.
But if people think that magic BIOS's and magic optimisations are going to come around, then fair enough, I don't share the same "opinion".

I expect BD to be priced aggressively, and expect the architecture to be very future friendly, however I'm more of an "in the moment" kind of guy.
If you can use the CPU's fully, then they'll be excellent price/performance.

I doubt we'll see a large boost in single threaded performance across the board, but I believe this alludes to the fact these chips could in fact offer greater performance in specific use cases, once a lot of work has been done.

It's likely that in most cases the single threaded performance is simply good enough, and that most people who pick up a high end CPU do so for gaming, where they arguably don't need the extra grunt, or for tasks which are more than likely going to benefit from the extra cores anyway. I'm not attempting to argue that a 2500k won't be faster at a whole load of things, just that the in most of those circumstances the difference might as well be considered zero.

I'm aware that a lot of people will have a lot of different use cases, but in my own, like a lot of people here, I'm a gamer, and if the CPU completely flops there I'll probably be a bit unhappy about that. However, on the other hand if it manages to break my required minimums, I can't think of many use cases where the difference in single thread performance will really matter.

Like I said, I'm aware that use cases are different for each of us, but this looks like it _could_ be a seriously nice CPU for the price for me. Just waiting on some real world info now.
 
These look like official slides:

http://www.techbang.com.tw/posts/72...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+techbang+(T客邦+最新文章)


Edit!!

Here is a slide from the latest presentation:

http://cdn0.techbang.com.tw/system/...cf774d14a2521055029436ee66f0e2.png?1317900301

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Here is a similar slide from another presentation "leaked" a few weeks ago:

http://wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/amdfxpressdeck_12a_dh_fx57-635x341.jpg

amdfxpressdeck_12a_dh_fx57-635x341.jpg


It looks like someone has changed around the labels in the older "leak" it seems!!
 
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These look like official slides:

http://www.techbang.com.tw/posts/72...witter&utm_campaign=Feed:+techbang+(T客邦+最新文章)


Edit!!

Here is a slide from the latest presentation:

http://cdn0.techbang.com.tw/system/...cf774d14a2521055029436ee66f0e2.png?1317900301

7dcf774d14a2521055029436ee66f0e2.png


Here is a similar slide from another presentation "leaked" a few weeks ago:

http://wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/amdfxpressdeck_12a_dh_fx57-635x341.jpg

amdfxpressdeck_12a_dh_fx57-635x341.jpg


It looks like someone has changed around the labels in the older "leak" it seems!!

Yeah, those results look exactly the same with the colours switched rounds.
 
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As long as my 8150 hits 4.5Ghz+ (Ideally 5Ghz) - I'll be more than happy.
At least I wouldn't have had to change platform to get sandybridge performance :)
 
4 core version

The 4 core version is getting more and more attractive to me....
3.6 Stock, the potential to unlock extra cores and a price point rumoured to be around £95....for just over £200 you could get a compatible motherboard, the cpu, memory and a cheap cooler.

With the potential to OC to 4.5 -5 Ghz it could be the bargain of all time.
 
Let's just hope that the slides are not for the top BD model...
Otherwise, I'd need to see a price tag of ~150 max to buy that instead of 2500K
 
any other mobos with core unlocking for the BD?

My asrock 970 extreme4 does core unlocking, currently running a 550X2 as a quad. Pretty sure most asrock AM3+ motherboards unlock cores. ASUS I think still allow it, while Gigabyte I believe dont anymore. Not sure if the unlocking still applies for BD though, have to wait and see.
 
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Let's just hope that the slides are not for the top BD model...
Otherwise, I'd need to see a price tag of ~150 max to buy that instead of 2500K

But the slides show the 8150 matching/faster than i7 2600K... why would they possibly price it against the i5 2500K... :confused:

I can see the six core being £150, to replace the 1100T.

But the 8 core will be i7 pricing.
 
Hmm interesting, I wonder if would be a good upgrade for the i7 920 users, or should we wait till the 8170 for a little extra, or even perphaps buy the 8150 now and upgrade as itll be the same socket later on?
 
we don't know what clock speed they was running at for those results..

if it was at stock then great, if it's at 4.7-5ghz then not so great
 
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The 4 core version is getting more and more attractive to me....
3.6 Stock, the potential to unlock extra cores and a price point rumoured to be around £95....for just over £200 you could get a compatible motherboard, the cpu, memory and a cheap cooler.

With the potential to OC to 4.5 -5 Ghz it could be the bargain of all time.
Lol, if a 4-core successfully unlocked to an 8-core and overclocked to 4.5-5 GHz it would certainly be the best value CPU of all time.
 
But the slides show the 8150 matching/faster than i7 2600K... why would they possibly price it against the i5 2500K... :confused:

I can see the six core being £150, to replace the 1100T.

But the 8 core will be i7 pricing.

Sorry, had a blonde moment and thought they were comparing it against the top i7 980X...
its 2500K they took as a reference 100% point though.

Also when looked at the slides again on one they clearly say its FX8150
 
It looks like the chap over on XS who was testing his Bulldozer sample is having to run the tests again:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...-info-fans-!&p=4966439&viewfull=1#post4966439

My guess is that over the coming days, weeks and months, performance in some applications may improve markedly. It seems as if AMD are still optimising CPU micro-code. Bad that this wasn't finished before review samples were sent out, but somewhat understandable as it's the first major change in x86 architecture for a very long time.

Also, some programs and benchmarks will no doubt be patched to work better with the new architecture.

BIOS / CPU driver updates updates these days tend to occasionally address stability issues in the early days of CPU releases, but more often than not just improve / debug mobo & chipset features. Seems like there may be plenty of updates to actually improve CPU performance and optimisiation, here.
 
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