AMD Bulldozer Finally!

gareth170 · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:21

i thought they said they'll be releasing a patch for windows to improve performance....

romper76 · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:26

damn! i think a intel celeron @5ghz would whoop that super pi time

DragonQ · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:32

Super PI is a well known Intel-slanted and inefficient benchmark, it's a stupid thing to use as a comparison when AMD CPUs are involved.

njm106 · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:39

mjones1 said:
It's real.

It's a faaake!

DragonQ · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:48

mjones1 said:
Disappointing review of the fx 8150.

http://translate.google.com/transla...oare-chipseturi/amd-fx-8150-bulldozer-preview

I guess my 1055t is staying until piledriver is out or is the new bios & patches give a huge performance gain.

The only benchmark there of importance to me is the Handbrake one, where the FX-8150 doesn't even beat an i7-2600K. It doesn't mention overclocking so I can only assume they're at stock (so 3.5 GHz for i7-2600K and 3.8 GHz I think for the FX-8150 due to Turbo). Since I doubt the FX has much more overclocking headroom than the i7, I really have no reason to get an FX CPU if this benchmark is true. Obviously the FX is a bit cheaper but from the looks of things right now, it isn't by much.

mmj_uk · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:48

gareth170 said:
http://wccftech.com/amd-bulldozer-f...i-x6-1100t-clocktoclock-benchmark-comparison/

somethings wrong because in this review , BD is even slower in multithread apps, surely it would be faster due to 2 extra cores for multithread apps

BD 'cores' are cut down compared to the more convential cores we're used to of Sandy Bridge and Phenom X2.

The only thing that's going to save BD is if they clock to 5ghz+ stable as standard, even then a 4.6ghz 2600K will likely be much better.

psychas · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:51

that review was fake as i am aware the person who made it admitted it ^

Cooper · 9 Oct 2011 at 10:53

Lol..at this rate, Phenom II's are going to start going up in price next week, as they will be seen as an upgrade to Bulldozer..

Andy__C · 9 Oct 2011 at 11:25

Really?.... I still fail to believe that AMD will release a new flagship model that is a step down from previous models in terms of performance.

davieg · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:15

Andy__C said:
Really?.... I still fail to believe that AMD will release a new flagship model that is a step down from previous models in terms of performance.

Lol I was the same as you but the more and more little snippets were getting its looking like the 1100T will probably be the flagship still. Well not even a flagship more like a flagdingy or flagrowingboat.

DragonQ · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:17

The FX-8150 is looking to be much more expensive than the 1100T though.

Bleek · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:22

romper76 said:
damn! i think a intel celeron @5ghz would whoop that super pi time

Not this BS again.

SuperPi is irrelevant.

Admetos · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:24

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8150+Eight-Core

FX8150 between i5 and i7 above.

AMD confirmed in event they will do 5 ghz on water, and 4.5 ghz on good air cooler.

OCUK may already have these but can't say due to NDA.

I reckon however 8 core AMD will perform better then 4 core i7 in software using all cores. Add also the AMD chip should be coming in cheaper then 4 core i7. Lets face it, it's performance in multi-threaded software where we need the performance.

sunama · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:38

5Ghz on water will be pretty good. However, a 2600K, can also get close to 5Ghz on water. What comes into play at these speeds will be the IPC value. P4 got around the low IPC, by clocking really high. Will the BD have to do 6Ghz+ to beat the 2600K outright?

tommybhoy · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:39

JasonM said:
OCUK may already have these but can't say due to NDA.

They've had them since last week.

Martini1991 · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:39

DragonQ said:
Super PI is a well known Intel-slanted and inefficient benchmark, it's a stupid thing to use as a comparison when AMD CPUs are involved.

This.
I said AMD could release a superior CPU and superpi would still have Intel ahead.

tommybhoy said:
They've had them since last week.

A competitor does too.
I'm surprised by the none

thread like.

Admetos · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:49

sunama said:
5Ghz on water will be pretty good. However, a 2600K, can also get close to 5Ghz on water. What comes into play at these speeds will be the IPC value. P4 got around the low IPC, by clocking really high. Will the BD have to do 6Ghz+ to beat the 2600K outright?

I expect the current Intel chips will out perform the AMD's in single core tests.

To me that's not so important, as when does anything single threaded today slow you down anyway. I talking about the times you sit there actually waiting.

The 'bottlenecks' in a modern applications are file compression, video editing, photoshop etc, all these are written multi-threaded apps, so an AMD 8 core should be great.

Martini1991 · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:51

JasonM said:
I expect the current Intel chips will out perform the AMD's in single core tests.

To me that's not so important, as when does anything single threaded today slow you down anyway. I talking about the times you sit there actually waiting.

The 'bottlenecks' in a modern applications are file compression, video editing, photoshop etc, all these are written multi-threaded apps, so an AMD 8 core should be great.

I wish people would stop saying single core tests.
As most programs aren't single threaded, they're multi-threaded, how many threads they can use however is dependant on the program, and if a 2500k bests an FX in single core, it's going to best it in until a program uses more threads then a 2500k has (And even then it's still not clear cut)

LeJosh · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:52

I'm more curious to see if Emulator developers will implement BD's new instruction sets or if they'll get used.

Martini1991 · 9 Oct 2011 at 12:53

Also, what's with the "THEY'RE BRINGING OUT LAUNCH DAY UPDATES"
Wouldn't they give these updates etc for the reviews?

LeJosh said:
I'm more curious to see if Emulator developers will implement BD's new instruction sets or if they'll get used.

Depends how useful they are.
I know PCSX2 team are interested in AVX. But that's SB and BD isn't it?