AMD Bulldozer Finally!

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:11

drunkenmaster said:
Possibly, from what I can remember of them for the past decade they aren't normally first with new products.

Strange, they've been fine for the past 2 years I've used them

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Gandeh said:
Haha you will never let me live it down will you Martini!

I'm sticking with my AMD build and I'm going to go for the 8150 even if it means that SB kicks my ass by a little bit .... or a lot.

My main concern now is where and when to preorder!

Order where you want to mate, but you're still waiting 2 weeks at least for a CPU

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:19

BD wins.. FLAT OUT! /thread

Chihero · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:20

So Assuming this price is correct (well its listed pre-order elsewhere)

95 quid for the 4 core FX-4100 3.6ghz any pre release benchmarks comparing it to the I5 2500k 3.3GHz which is 172 quid?

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:20

Chihero said:
So Assuming this price is correct (well its listed pre-order elsewhere)

95 quid for the 4 core FX-4100 3.6ghz any pre release benchmarks comparing it to the I5 2500k 3.3GHz which is 172 quid?

You can't really compare given the price....
Unfortunately this isn't going to drop the 2500k to below 150

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d_brennen · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:25

Chihero said:
So Assuming this price is correct (well its listed pre-order elsewhere)

95 quid for the 4 core FX-4100 3.6ghz any pre release benchmarks comparing it to the I5 2500k 3.3GHz which is 172 quid?

My van has 4 wheels, just like a Ferrari

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:28

How on Earth did the engineers sit around the table going "That's it, I think we've got it".

Avathar77 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:30

Martini1991 said:
How on Earth did the engineers sit around the table going "That's it, I think we've got it".

They oc'ed it, and then put it against a stock 2500k/2600k!

blackninja · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:31

Martini1991 said:
BD wins.. FLAT OUT! /thread

You've distorted the facts!

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:33

Avathar77 said:
They oc'ed it, and then put it against an underclocked 2500k/2600k!

Fixed.

drunkenmaster · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:35

Martini1991 said:
You can't really compare given the price....
Unfortunately this isn't going to drop the 2500k to below 150 .

Of course you can compare, why couldn't you, the 8150 will never in a million years average being 100% faster than a FX4100. In 8 threaded situations it should be significantly faster, in 4 threaded situations, why would it be, overclocked to the same speed, in a LOT of stuff the quad core will be on par with the hex core. Over time the quad core will age less well as more 4+thread software comes out.

Will Sandybridge be, from the two stores I checked £167, 75% faster than the FX4100? Why can't you compare them, if the FX4100 gives you the same performance as a 2500k in gpu limited games, in e-mail, booting, etc, etc, etc?

If most people bought on the performance they NEED, the FX4100 could be a pretty awesome chip, then again, so is a £70-80 quad Phenom 2.

Price/performance is performance you actually need are the two "consumer" comparisons. From a tech point of view, performance/mm2, performance/w, lack of GPU, the Sandybridge will win pretty much hands down.

Same way Nvidia loses all those things to AMD by a bucketload aswell, but as a consumer, who the hell cares.

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:36

drunkenmaster said:
Of course you can compare, why couldn't you

Because the 2500k destroys the FX4100 but that's obvious given the price and the FX8150.
I thought that was implied?

EDIT : What I think will be interesting is the 2120 V.S the FX4100 at the same clock, I expect the 2120 to wipe the floor with it.
Cue Intel releasing a dual core K chip

drunkenmaster · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:38

Martini1991 said:
How on Earth did the engineers sit around the table going "That's it, I think we've got it".

Well, what they did was design a quad core + gpu, and a random part with no gpu and more cores. Bulldozer was ALWAYS about Fusion/APU, in every way. Everything said so far suggests Trinity = huge improvement on Llano and server performance will be VERY different to consumer products, these are the two area's the chip is really designed for.

One of the main questions for server performance is, not how fast it can run one program and 8 threads, but how well it can run 10 programs and fit 100 threads through the CPU....... if theres a drastic improvement there(which I think there will be) then again, its a good design.

Jleo · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:46

Construction site..... but no Bulldozers

All the bits for my SB i7 2600k are arriving in the next few days, a tried and tested route by lots of folk the past 10 months. That alone got cash out of my pocket :cool:

I'll will be looking forward to seeing what the 8 loaded cores of Bulldozer can do if there's application suppprt. Though it might be costly having to upgrade core software packages to take advantage of those extra pipes.

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:51

What do I buy tomorrow now?
Guess I ain't buying an FX 8150

Avathar77 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:55

what are you getting then?

alex24 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:58

Martini1991 said:
What do I buy tomorrow now?
Guess I ain't buying an FX 8150

Go outside, meet humans, go see a movie or something, just take a break from this thread!

Martini1991 · 12 Oct 2011 at 01:58

Avathar77 said:
what are you getting then?

No idea.

alex24 said:
Go outside, meet humans, go see a movie or something, just take a break from this thread!

I've been for a meal already

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Being on JSA has stopped me from sleeping normally.

And the only people outside at the moment aren't the people I want to spend my morning with

hedgey · 12 Oct 2011 at 02:09

sunama · 12 Oct 2011 at 02:42

Right, so this is a paper launch and actual availability will be later this month...BUT what about the benchmarks...that is what I'm interested in?

wannabedamned · 12 Oct 2011 at 03:30

Logged in on my lunch break for nothing