Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks'

Considering that Shia make up what 7+% of the Muslim world as opposed to 80+% Sunni, that statement is a bit of a misnomer. Then you can go into the debate of what exactly is a terrorist, i.e. Bashar Assad is terrorising his people, he's Alawite Shia Muslim. Are you biased per chance?

Are you biased? And what have you posted that prooves the Iranian regime are terrorists?

Face the facts, most terrorist attacks are from Sunni Muslims not shias so this BS propaganda that is being peddled about Iran is just that BS.
 
Every gambit is a risk.




Did that make sense when you wrote it?

If Iran did it for that reason then they would do it so that it seems to saudi that america was at fault for the attack wasn't that your logic?
 
I disagree - the west easily has enough manpower and resources to launch an Invasion of Iran.

Agreed, but I think they lack the conviction to want to do it. I think the west, mainly the USA, are happy to apply sanctions and use the potential threat of military power, but would not actually engage unless there was a massive attack on home soil that could be inextricably linked and proven to have originated from Iran. It would have to be of such magnitude that it would result in the deaths of several 1000 American citizens and would therefore be construed as an act of war.

The death of a few politicians / envoys would not I like to believe set the American war machine to work on Iran.
 
I disagree - the west easily has enough manpower and resources to launch an Invasion of Iran.

Well the UK has the manpower and resources to launch an invasion anywhere whether it would be successful however is a completely different thing. The whole of NATO could not prosecute a successful war against Iran let alone the US acting is isolation.
 
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Lying Americans lying . . . as usual.

Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, chair of the House Foreign Affairs committee, said the assassination plot "illustrates Iran's active campaign" to partner with extremists groups and drug traffickers. But as more details have emerged, there has been growing scepticism over the true nature of the threat, not least because the main suspect has been revealed to be a car salesman, nicknamed "Scarface", with a string of failed businesses behind him.

Manssor Arbabsiar, a naturalised US citizen, was arrested last month, and stands accused of running a global terror plot that stretched from Mexico to Tehran. He is accused of having links to Quds Force, an elite unit of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. The other suspect, Gholam Shakuri, is said by the US to be in Iran. But Tom Hosseini, a friend and former roommate of Arbabsiar's, questioned his ability to carry out the plot and told the New York Times: "His socks would not match. He was always losing his keys and his cellphone." Hosseini said when he last saw his friend two months ago, Arbabsiar told him he had been in Iran and was "making good money."

US officials concede that the plot and its alleged mastermind are unusual. ''We would expect to see the Quds Force cover their tracks more effectively,'' one official told Reuters. Another said a plot to launch a violent attack inside the United States was ''very outside the pattern'' of recent Quds Force activities. (The Grauniad/url])
Why in the name of God would anyone believe anything the Americans say about a plot originating in Iran?

The Americans have been shown again and again to have lied over threats they face from the Middle East - n the case of Iran, it has been going on for about 60 years.

IT IS ALL ABOUT OIL :rolleyes:
 
Well the UK has the manpower and resources to launch an invasion anywhere whether it would be successful however is a completely different thing. The whole of NATO could not prosecute a successful war against Iran let alone the US acting is isolation.

Thats slightly out of context of what was said. Th eposter said, they have enough resources to launch an invasion'. There was no comment saying it would succeed :)

Technically the west has got enough manpower for such a deployment, but I fear victory would only be realised through use of the nuclear option. I couldn't see conventional tactics securing a victory, especially when you see how long and drawn out the current middle east campaign have been. It would have to be a proper no holds bared war where every tool at the west disposal was deployed, nuclear arsenal and all. If they went for a conventional stand up and fight war I think it would be a stalemate.
 
In a stand up conventional battle, the regular Iranian forces would probably be smashed by technologically superior and combat hardened western forces, just as during the opening stages of the Iraq war. The occupation and insurgency we would see afterwards would make Iraq seem like a picnic in comparison however.

There was a joke among Berliners as the Red Army closed in from the east in March-April 1945. "Enjoy the rest of the war, the peace is going to be hell."
 
1949 - Kim Koo, Korean opposition leader

1950s - CIA/Neo-Nazi hit list of more than 200 political figures in West Germany
to be "put out of the way" in the event of a Soviet invasion

1950s - Chou En-lai, Prime minister of China, several attempts on his life

1950s, 1962 - Sukarno, President of Indonesia

1951 - Kim Il Sung, Premier of North Korea

1953 - Mohammed Mossadegh, Prime Minister of Iran

1950s (mid) - Claro M. Recto, Philippines opposition leader

1955 - Jawaharlal Nehru, Prime Minister of India

1957 - Gamal Abdul Nasser, President of Egypt

1959, 1963, 1969 - Norodom Sihanouk, leader of Cambodia

1960 - Brig. Gen. Abdul Karim Kassem, leader of Iraq

1950s-70s - José Figueres, President of Costa Rica, two attempts on his life

1961 - Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier, leader of Haiti

1961 - Patrice Lumumba, Prime Minister of the Congo (Zaire)

1961 - Gen. Rafael Trujillo, leader of Dominican Republic

1963 - Ngo Dinh Diem, President of South Vietnam

1960s-70s - Fidel Castro, President of Cuba, many attempts on his life

1960s - Raúl Castro, high official in government of Cuba

1965 - Francisco Caamaño, Dominican Republic opposition leader

1965-6 - Charles de Gaulle, President of France

1967 - Che Guevara, Cuban leader

1970 - Salvador Allende, President of Chile

1970 - Gen. Rene Schneider, Commander-in-Chief of Army, Chile

1970s, 1981 - General Omar Torrijos, leader of Panama

1972 - General Manuel Noriega, Chief of Panama Intelligence

1973-83 - Various Tupamaros in Uruguay (at behest of US)

1975 - Mobutu Sese Seko, President of Zaire

1976 - Michael Manley, Prime Minister of Jamaica

1980-1986 - Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya, several plots and attempts upon his life

1982 - Ayatollah Khomeini, leader of Iran

1983 - Gen. Ahmed Dlimi, Moroccan Army commander

1983 - Miguel d'Escoto, Foreign Minister of Nicaragua

1984 - The nine comandantes of the Sandinista National Directorate

1985 - Sheikh Mohammed Hussein Fadlallah, Lebanese Shiite leader (80 people killed in the attempt)

1991 - Saddam Hussein, leader of Iraq

1993 - Mohamed Farah Aideed, prominent clan leader of Somalia

1998, 2001-2 - Osama bin Laden, leading Islamic militant

1999 - Slobodan Milosevic, President of Yugoslavia

2002 - Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Afghan Islamic leader and warlord

2003 - Saddam Hussein and his two sons

2011 - Muammar Qaddafi, leader of Libya

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7321.htm

If you wonder what that list is, it is assassinations with links to America.
 
America runs on the war economy. They havnt stayed in Afghanistan (and Iraq) at huge expense to see in a fair government so that some opium growers can have a better life. A war will create a short term boost to the economy, contracts could be awarded but paid on a medium term basis. Meanwhile America and the west takes near-full control/influence of the middle east and pays off their long term debts with oil revenue and gets a slice of the OPEC pie they so badly want.

Sounds awesome. We are lucky to have such visionary leaders.
 
Thats slightly out of context of what was said. Th eposter said, they have enough resources to launch an invasion'. There was no comment saying it would succeed :)

Technically the west has got enough manpower for such a deployment, but I fear victory would only be realised through use of the nuclear option. I couldn't see conventional tactics securing a victory, especially when you see how long and drawn out the current middle east campaign have been. It would have to be a proper no holds bared war where every tool at the west disposal was deployed, nuclear arsenal and all. If they went for a conventional stand up and fight war I think it would be a stalemate.

And how would using the nuclear option achieve anything at all. It would unite the world against the US, it would further unite the whole Middle East against the US, it would cause the EU to back away from the US, it would cause Russia China and India to pursue interests against the US, it would damage the economic recovery of Iran with any government that the US would want to put into place. I really fail to see how it is a viable option at all in fact it would be probably the worst strategic move you could make. US forces entering Iran would be a complete disaster look what happened the last time.
 
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