I don't have an issue with self control. It really isn't tricky. But then I'm a driving enthusiast, not "Joe Average" so I can't comment for the scores of random idiots out there.
Winter tyres advice. Only on drive wheels??
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It could easily be your problem if your car happens to be the one they plough backwards into.
The average driver almost certainly will not be aware of, or understand the implications of greatly reduced grip on the rear tyres, especially when they been given the ability to get up to speed more easily. I'm not condoning the ignorance of the average driver, just drawing your attention to it; if we have to have unskilled muppets on the roads, then I'd prefer them to be able stop as well as they can go.
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Do winter tyres generally have those extra "small" grooves - have noticed a few cars starting to appear with them, and I have never seen such a design before!
Yes. These aid traction in wet or snowy conditions.
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Neat, I like learning new things like that - a fair number of cars seem to be fitting these this year then. Had never noticed them before.
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Poses a question do these wear out seriously quick in dry conditions, lets say u fir then next month expecting some snow yet we don't see ant until january, will 2 months of non winter weather have much effect on them.
Yeah because only drive wheels need grip right?
You should work in a tyre centre, you are clearly as clueless as they are.
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So happy I’m a logical, pragmatic, educated and well informed sort of guy, because if I listened to half of the dross some people come out with I’d be rolling around in a brand new 1.4tdci fiesta to save on the tax n MPGZ, running on budget tyres whilst shouting about how much better the Labour party are and criticising everything in the media as being state controlled and so bias that we actually don't live in a free country.
It's quite worrying that you were advised by a tyre supplier to only fit two snow tyres.
1) This is not the best idea for grip levels.
2) He just potentially lost out to 1/2 of a justified sale. Not exactly ripping someone off saying you really should buy 4.
1) This is not the best idea for grip levels.
2) He just potentially lost out to 1/2 of a justified sale. Not exactly ripping someone off saying you really should buy 4.
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I can see only having snow tyres fitted on front in a FWD being ok and better than regular tyres, since these are both the driving & steering wheels. It would work better than better than only on the rear drive wheels on a rwd.
It would be better to have all 4 and on a RWD a must, but on a FWD I am sure fronts would suffice if you are driving sensibly. Probably also depends on what rear tyres you have on already and how well they perform in the snow. Since driving sensibly in snow / sleet / ice rules out most of the driving population in snow conditions then fit 4.
It would be better to have all 4 and on a RWD a must, but on a FWD I am sure fronts would suffice if you are driving sensibly. Probably also depends on what rear tyres you have on already and how well they perform in the snow. Since driving sensibly in snow / sleet / ice rules out most of the driving population in snow conditions then fit 4.
That's different, snow chains are supposed to let the drive wheels get traction so they don't spin, not let the car grip so it doesn't slide out on a corner.
Not really, with four summer tyres your down on grip but the grip you have is still balanced and you can use planning and common sense to drive as safely as possible. With two of each tyre one end of the car will have a lot more grip which will throw any driving assists the vehicle has totally out of whack and giving the front end substantially more grip is a textbook way of causing oversteer. It will not give the same kind of improvement as four winter tyres and would most likely be worse than four summer tyres as you will still have to take extra care but now you have added uncertainty/unpredictability as to how the car will react.
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Yeah good luck with the LOOS.
If you don’t get lift off over steer with your current tyres then you won’t with just having snows on the drive wheels. If you are getting lift of over steer driving in snow, you are not driving correctly for the conditions. I drove last year in the snow with budgets all round on a FWD car with no issues. The problem comes when people do not drive correctly for the conditions irrespective of tyres.
It is a bit of a moot point since most people drive like tools in the snow either way and probably exceed the capabilities of snow tyres anyway. All that will happen is they get snow tyres and think they can drive at normal speeds again.