Hard Drive Pricing going up at an alarming rate!!!!

Nate Silvers said:
11327GB :eek:

Looks like you need a few more 2TBs too. So do you just save important files to the external or are those 2tb drives mirrored? I feel uneducated on hard drives now. Always just plug them in and go. Does the storage pool just store random files on different hard drives? That's weird I'm used to having all movies on one drive and all music on another etc.

Also is that on a NAS?
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All the data is duplicated on the server

I backup all the Music/Music Lossless/photos/Home videos/Users/software/ to the 2TB external. The videos and everything else as I say has folder duplication enabled.

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The storage pool and drive extender does all the hardwork. I just copy data to the shares. All the Videos for example are in one folder share but over all the 6 2TB drives. But they look like they are contained in one folder in one place :) I love WHS

Its not a NAS its a server running windows home server and i3 540cpu
 
Nate Silvers said:
That's pretty cool but why not just use raid? Or a NAS would be cheaper to buy than build/buy a server and use less power.
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Raid is a PITA and cannot be transferred to different systems. Plus if the array fails you need to rebuild it.Decent controllers are expensive I can take any drive out if the server fails and copy the data off each drive via a caddy or whatever.

Also you can add any size and make and speed of drives to the pool..Raid is flaky with different drives.You can remove drives too without loss of data if you have enough free space. You can even add USB drives to the storage pool too.

Also a NAS cannot wake up client machines and back them up. It cannot also rebuild machines that have corrupt windows over the network either.:)
 
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Okay I agree with RAID but NAS seems good for a home user who doesn't need to backup other systems. You get the drives in one nice little box no need for a monitor etc.

I'm looking for 1.5tb (no chance finding a 2tb) Western Digital drives, seen some for £60-70. I really really need more storage :(

Would buying an external and taking the drive out and using it as an internal be a good idea?
 
Nate Silvers said:
Okay I agree with RAID but NAS seems good for a home user who doesn't need to backup other systems. You get the drives in one nice little box no need for a monitor etc.

I'm looking for 1.5tb (no chance finding a 2tb) Western Digital drives, seen some for £60-70. I really really need more storage :(

Would buying an external and taking the drive out and using it as an internal be a good idea?
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You don't need a monitor with windows home server. You have the box under the stairs in the garage or whatever and manage through the console via you laptop or PC. It doesn't need keyboard or mouse either. You don't see it that's the point!

Its more powerful than a NAS and a decent NAS can be pricey.

HP media Smart servers are drives in one little box or the Acer Revo centre or any PC case you like however small you like dpending on how many drives you need.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/windowshomeserver/default.mspx

You could buy an external and take it out but it will void the warranty
 
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Ah right I might build a WHS then but how can you fit that many drives in a tiny PC? I was looking at NETGEAR Stora MS2000 NAS server.

Good point about warranty. Bah wish I bought a 2tb sooner, I can't wait until March :(
 
Nate Silvers said:
Ah right I might build a WHS then but how can you fit that many drives in a tiny PC? I was looking at NETGEAR Stora MS2000 NAS server.

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You can't if you want that many drives!

That Nas is only 2 bay so max 3TB with mirroring storage?!

Not sure the point of one unless you need to access the data from many different locations?

My PS3 , XBMC, laptops ,PC cinema room all stream from the WHS...Its the centre of my digital world!

Night :)
 
Wow that sucks you've convinced me with WHS. I stream all my digital files too though just using map network drive for laptops and Tversity for Xbox 360 blurays. Night didn't realize time :)
 
Thank god solid state superseded mechanical drives years ago. ;)

Seriously though how often does one need to get a new hdd for their home PC? Last one I bought was years ago, storage capacity far outstrips requirements these days, don't see what the panic is about.
 
Energize said:
Thank god solid state superseded mechanical drives years ago. ;)

Seriously though how often does one need to get a new hdd for their home PC? Last one I bought was years ago, storage capacity far outstrips requirements these days, don't see what the panic is about.
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I think quite a few people are resorting to large Nas and servers to manage all of their digital files. My home Nas has over 7tb of data on it. Luckily I bought another 5 x 2 tb hard drives. So I'm probably fine for the next year. I rip all of my blurays and these come in at 40gb each for most.
 
Nate Silvers said:
Okay I agree with RAID but NAS seems good for a home user who doesn't need to backup other systems. You get the drives in one nice little box no need for a monitor etc.

I'm looking for 1.5tb (no chance finding a 2tb) Western Digital drives, seen some for £60-70. I really really need more storage :(

Would buying an external and taking the drive out and using it as an internal be a good idea?
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NAS is so slow its unusable for me, WHS can do 80-100Mb/s sustained, a nas will max at like 5, lol.
 
There are still some good buys to be found. The Seagate 1TB ST31000524AS drive here at OC is £99.98 and can be found for less than £60 inc free delivery. I have got one on its way, albeit £6 cheaper as I placed my order a few days ago.
 
dLockers said:
NAS is so slow its unusable for me, WHS can do 80-100Mb/s sustained, a nas will max at like 5, lol.
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True, a rubbish NAS such as the retail ones are very slow. But if you bought a HP microserver and installed freenas on a usb stick, you could get speeds of what you mentioned. And its easily cheaper than the NAS devices you can buy off the shelf with the added bonus of being able to hold 6 hard drives.
 
Vimes said:
There are still some good buys to be found. The Seagate 1TB ST31000524AS drive here at OC is £99.98 and can be found for less than £60 inc free delivery. I have got one on its way, albeit £6 cheaper as I placed my order a few days ago.
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Yep, just ordered one plus a crucial m4 ssd!

Must. stop. spending.
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no1$dn said:
Guess i have you to thank then, i have 4 2TB Hitachi's coming from the same place. Bought for £54.99.
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hehe, the usb 2 ones? I didn't feel the need to go overboard though the,"my life sucks and why shouldn't I make a profit if everyone else is" part of me kinda wishes I bought the entire stock of 2/3tb drives and then sold them in a month or two :p

I considered getting the usb 2 ones and ripping them all out but I'm going "external" with drives now, getting more and more irked with noise, though I have to say the raided smaller hitachi's I have for my non ssd games are crazy quieter with the Acoustic management crap turned on.

Too many people as evidenced in this thread, are rushing out to overpay for drives, which is just leading distro's/retailers to increase prices further.

Seriously, if EVERYONE just stopped buying for a week, prices WOULD stop increasing. Every time a retailers see's anyone anywhere buy a 1tb for £50, they suddenly wonder if people will pay £60 and put the price up. That's all these prices are frankly, retailers/distro's testing the water, seeing what stupid prices people will pay, then pushing it further. They'll keep going till people stop buying, it doesn't really matter what price that's at.

The other problem is people ARE getting silly over the amount of storage they actually need, come on, " I have a TB of music", so what, if you lost it, it would take a couple of days to redownload it all, who cares. I have 15 tb of all TV, again, if you actually lost a single drive, it wouldn't take long to replace it all anyway so what's the issue. My net for the moment is only around 13mb, I can download just about anything I want faster than I can actually watch/listen to it anyway.

Back when internet was slow and it took days to download stuff, keeping it was more important, these days, lose a file, download it, stream it, have it back in basically minutes, its less and less important.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
The other problem is people ARE getting silly over the amount of storage they actually need, come on, " I have a TB of music", so what, if you lost it, it would take a couple of days to redownload it all, who cares. I have 15 tb of all TV, again, if you actually lost a single drive, it wouldn't take long to replace it all anyway so what's the issue. My net for the moment is only around 13mb, I can download just about anything I want faster than I can actually watch/listen to it anyway.

Back when internet was slow and it took days to download stuff, keeping it was more important, these days, lose a file, download it, stream it, have it back in basically minutes, its less and less important.
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BS Post alert!


So people are not buying HD cameras?

I have TB's of home movies from the Birth of my daughter to her 11 years later playing with her new puppy..I have my Graduation, christmas, birthdays, holidays...Go Pro HD projects Memories

I have many many photo's all need backing up. I guess some of us have real memories to treasure not TV shows and Movies:rolleyes:

I have all my data backed up...why? Anyone who doesn't back up is a noob...I don't want to download stuff again..I have better things to do...I don't want to rip stuff again...Once I have the media on the server I want it protected.

There is no excuse not to back up..Its not cool, big or clever not to in fact only noobs don't do it.
 
drunkenmaster said:
hehe, the usb 2 ones? I didn't feel the need to go overboard though the,"my life sucks and why shouldn't I make a profit if everyone else is" part of me kinda wishes I bought the entire stock of 2/3tb drives and then sold them in a month or two :p
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Not the USB2 ones, i found they had some 2TB internal drives hidden away on the site. I think the USB2.0 ones were 52.99 and I had originally planned to get those and rip out the drives, but was umming and arring about the warranty issue, so when i had made up my mind and came back to order them, they had gone up to 69.99. Luckily for some reason the internal drives haven't had their price changed. Using a cashback site and a voucher the drives came to just over £50 each inc delivery.
 
Does anyone know if the fact that the factory that made hard drive motors is flooded will push prices up even further than what they are? or will they stay as they are now until Xmas?
 
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