Should people on the dole have sky HD?

shoes · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:32

kylew said:
Why not direct your bitterness towards the government who allow all this to happen? You've also undermined your rant by suggesting that your income tax and NI all go to people on benefits and nothing else.

Considering that a report was recently published stating that welfare payouts outstrips income tax proceeds then that's a fair argument, is it not?

spudbynight · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:36

Mr-White said:
True but when she's on benefits paid for by people who can't afford it themselves something is a little ****ed up !

MW

How do you know what is being sacrificed elsewhere to pay for it?

SKY HD is available from £30.25 a month. That is only £7.56 a week in a four week month.

What else can you get for that money? Would you begrudge someone on the dole a single ticket a week to the cinema (without snacks)? What about two pints in the pub?

Do you really think people on the dole should be given just enough to feed themselves and keep warm?

Turambar · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:36

shoes said:
Considering that a report was recently published stating that welfare payouts outstrips income tax proceeds then that's a fair argument, is it not?

About a quarter (last I checked) of those welfare payouts go to people with jobs as tax credits, maternity leave etc.

-edit- probably more than a quarter actually since you don't need to be unemployed to receive housing benefit or child support.

avec · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:38

Sky is an expensive luxury.

Whilst I don't think anyone should be denied the choice to spend the money how they want to, it's still an expensive luxury that a great deal of people can't afford.

That such a high proportion of the lower class have Sky subscriptions shows something wrong with our society and the way benefits are dished out (not that we didn't know about that already for other reasons.

Tibbz2 · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:38

simulatorman said:
You should team up with Jeremy Kyle.

I am his secret twin

Capn' $qu!ff said:
TBH even if i could afford it I couldn't sleep at night knowing my hard earned cash was going into Rupert Murdoch's pocket.

Haha yes

spudbynight · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:38

Tibbz2 said:
Yeah it is stupid, my mum works full time and we can't afford it... So why should some lazy mother like that be able to?

I find that hard to believe. I think it is far more likely that your mother simply chooses to spend her money on more sensible things that she isn't willing to sacrifice for SKY.

Basher · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:39

Ahleckz said:
Sky is very expensive, I can't afford it. I can't see how she can afford it without using funds that ought to be better spent.
Needs to get her priorities right, in my opinion.

Sky is not expensive. I pay £30 a month for calls, broadband and TV.

spudbynight · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:39

shoes said:
I rarely use the health service, and obviously pay for my prescriptions.

Well, unless you get private prescriptions then you don't. You simply pay a small contribution.

Vonhelmet · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:39

Child benefit is not means tested and is available to everyone with children. Perhaps you are trying to moan about some other benefits?

/pedant

Basher · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:42

Capn' $qu!ff said:
TBH even if i could afford it I couldn't sleep at night knowing my hard earned cash was going into Rupert Murdoch's pocket.

Really? That would keep you awake at night? Wow.

Cosimo · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:42

Vonhelmet said:
Child benefit is not means tested and is available to everyone with children. Perhaps you are trying to moan about some other benefits?

/pedant

He's just moaning because he got woken up.

Tibbz2 · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:43

spudbynight said:
I find that hard to believe. I think it is far more likely that your mother simply chooses to spend her money on more sensible things that she isn't willing to sacrifice for SKY.

She earns next to nothing though, to be honest.

loopylou · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:47

Perhaps, perhaps someone has given her a couple spare sky boxes and she has saved up her spare ££ each week to pay for freesat to be installed so her kids can watch cbeebies, and she can broaden her horizons by watching BBC news instead of Loose women.

Calm the rage down.

fez · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:52

loopylou said:
Perhaps, perhaps someone has given her a couple spare sky boxes and she has saved up her spare ££ each week to pay for freesat to be installed so her kids can watch cbeebies, and she can broaden her horizons by watching BBC news instead of Loose women.

Calm the rage down.

Oooh, I like this game. Perhaps she has just won the lottery and is now a secret millionaire so its all irrelevant. That or she is getting more money than she should be. Which is more likely.

franco_22 · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:54

Globul said:
Thank you!! I learned this the hard way, when I only had £10-15 to spend on food, and I quickly learned how to be savvy with it and cheaper brands and stores are not to be dismissed! Now I can easily feed myself on £10 or less a week, with added extras of crisps and maybe a naughty chocolate bar!

Are you available for marriage?

My gf won't spend less then 125-200 a week.

fez · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:55

franco_22 said:
Are you available for marriage?

My gf won't spend less then 125-200 a week.

Fraid shes a feeder buddy.

Tibbz2 · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:55

fez said:
Oooh, I like this game. Perhaps she has just won the lottery and is now a secret millionaire so its all irrelevant. That or she is getting more money than she should be. Which is more likely.

Perhaps she is a child trafficker? Earning millions, and being a single unemployed mum on benefits as a disguise...

fez · 28 Oct 2011 at 16:57

Tibbz2 said:
Perhaps she is a child trafficker? Earning millions, and being a single unemployed mum on benefits as a disguise...

Ooh I like that, makes her a scumbag as well as a benefits scrounger. Oooh, it has Jeremy Kyle written all over it.

Tibbz2 · 28 Oct 2011 at 17:00

fez said:
Ooh I like that, makes her a scumbag as well as a benefits scrounger. Oooh, it has Jeremy Kyle written all over it.

Yes, OP must send this case to him!

badcompany · 28 Oct 2011 at 17:02

what are they meant to watch all day freeview? Get real they need SKy to pass the time. Full package as well otherwise they will get bored.