Retread tyres

Raymond Lin · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:14

4MIT said:
For some people the price difference could be rather important. Kingpins £45 for a pair contis £100 a pair. £55 for some is a lot! however cost wasn't my main motivation to explore retreads.

£200 a set of tyres will last you what? 15kmiles, if you can't afford that then how do you afford petrol?

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:16

[TW]Fox;20442262 said:
I agree, it is apalling. We need proper standards to stop the torrent of crap rubber being fitted to peoples cars just because people think a tyre is just a black thing and buy the cheapest they can.

Remoulds here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSIfuZoaFOk&feature=related

Yes I wont be driving quite like that, but who knows when I may need to slam on

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:17

4MIT said:
Yes I wont be driving quite like that, but who knows when I may need to slam on

Quite. Sure, nobody cares about lap times but grip is what brings lap times down and there are occasions in normal everyday driving where grip is the difference between a brown trousers moment and an actual accident.

I'm sure we've all had a moment where we've braked hard and thought 'phew'.

With a set of remoulds you might be handing over insurance details. Or even worse..

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:18

Raymond Lin said:
£200 a set of tyres will last you what? 15kmiles, if you can't afford that then how do you afford petrol?

More than that - the sort of car you'd fit that size to will do 40k miles on the rear tyres and probably 20k on the fronts. Thats £300 for 40,000 miles worth of tyres.

Thats 0.0075p a mile. Compare with 10-40p a mile for petrol?

It's just a trivial amount when looked at on a longterm basis which of course nobody ever does

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:19

[TW]Fox;20442287 said:
Back to the old arguement of how low a budget is simply too low to run a car?

It is worrying how much quality of tyres can vary and they are possibly the most important safety feature for a car.

It appears the British standards are all to do with quality of construction rather than quality of material and design. No it wont blow out on you, but you may not be able to stop before you hit the lamp ...

Mickie · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:22

if they were so dangerous they wouldnt sell them, my dad run them on his van for years and never once has a problem.. ive bought cheap new tyres before and they fell apart..

people will just look for info on them through the internet and make up there mind but have they tried them out on their own car? probably not

red eye · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:23

4MIT said:
Basically, yay or nay.

Im needing new tyres on my golf (195 65 15 91). Would retread like these be any good.

Or should I just stop being a tight yorkshire git and get some brand new tyres?

depends on how much you value life, also tyres have a 6 year life calculated from the numbers after the D.O.T mark

Matt82 · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:25

I claim troll. Thirty quid is hardly much less than something new and good. Don't take the bait

Raymond Lin · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:26

I understand you want to go budget tyres if it cost £1,000 for a set, but this is £200 for all 4!

I hate to agree with Fox but he is more often right than wrong and I agree with him here. £50 a corner for conti is a absolute bargain. Trainers cost more than that and they last about 12 months.

Mickie · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:26

someone with remoulds will generally drive slower than some berk using r888s..

look at it that way. you're more likely to die because you think your car is on rails

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:27

generally

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:28

Raymond Lin said:
I hate to agree with Fox but he is more often right than wrong and I agree with him here. £50 a corner for conti is a absolute bargain. Trainers cost more than that and they last about 12 months.

Absolutely. You can tread an entire Golf on all 4 corners in PremiumContacts for less than I'd pay for one tyre on my car. It's fantastic to be able to buy such good tyres for so little and you'd be daft not to take advantage.

Mickie said:
someone with remoulds will generally drive slower than some berk using r888s..

look at it that way. you're more likely to die because you think your car is on rails

Just lol at this ridiculously daft statement.

It's nothing to do with how you drive. Even your gran might be driving along at the speed limit only to have some drunk fool step out in front of her.

Matt82 · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:32

[TW]Fox;20442262 said:
I agree, it is apalling. We need proper standards to stop the torrent of crap rubber being fitted to peoples cars just because people think a tyre is just a black thing and buy the cheapest they can.

Remoulds here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSIfuZoaFOk&feature=related

Hadn't seen that before, possibly dramatized but it gives a good idea

Mickie · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:33

i see plenty of boy racers crashing with good tyres, not so many crashing because they have remoulds, like i say my dad run them for years without problems..

obviously why bother buying them if you've got 195/60/15, they wont obvously be as good as a new tyre

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:34

Mickie said:
i see plenty of boy racers crashing with good tyres, not so many crashing because they have remoulds

Thats absolutely flawless logic.

Well done!

Will Gill · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:38

look at the mighty website/orginisation that ratify these awesome items

http://www.etrto.org/page.asp?id=1594

dunno about the rest of you but I'm filled with confidence

Mickie · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:42

nice clarkson video, 1sec slower, ooh no..

like i say if they were that dangerous they'd be illigal..

im happy you liked my logic fox, hopefully you can open your eyes and see its not all about the tyres, its about how you drive and if you're not driving like an idiot, leave big enough gaps you're very likely to be fine on remoulds..

yes someone could pull out on you, but even if you had r888s you could still crash if you didnt react in time..

so you cant push the car hard around corners with remoulds, why would you want to anyway unless you want to be pulled by the police ?

[TW]Fox · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:48

Mickie said:
nice clarkson video, 1sec slower, ooh no..

In the context of a 48 second lap, a second is an age. Beside, look at the way the cars differed in handling.

This isn't about lap times its about what makes a laptime - grip. And grip is important as much on the high street as it is on the track.

like i say if they were that dangerous they'd be illigal..

More flawed logic. Why would they be?

im happy you liked my logic fox, hopefully you can open your eyes and see its not all about the tyres, its about how you drive and if you're not driving like an idiot, leave big enough gaps you're very likely to be fine on remoulds..

You can leave the biggest gap in the world, if something unexpected happens you want to stop and you want to stop fast.

jon.bda · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:49

Hotwired said:
As far as I thought tyres were used til they'd worn then disposed of.

They are...we have to pay a company that makes remoulds to take our old carcasses, they use the ones they deem fit to do another turn...

4MIT · 30 Oct 2011 at 20:49

Will Gill said:
look at the mighty website/orginisation that ratify these awesome items

http://www.etrto.org/page.asp?id=1594

dunno about the rest of you but I'm filled with confidence

Poor website always equals poor products...

On the subject of accidents, should everyone one the road use decent quality tyres, would we see a dramatic reduction in incidents? I doubt it.

That being said I feel uncomfortable buying an inferior (safety wise) product eventhough, in all probability, they will make no real difference to me.

If a company comes out with high quality retreads and can prove the quality (eg wet stopping distance), i would go for them.