Panorama - Britain on the Fiddle

Pretty bland attempt at a program by the BBC, everyone knows benefit fraud happens. It's already been documented up the wazoo and we see it on our streets everyday.

This is easy programme making, designed to enrage an incite. Judging by the replies in this thread it's done it's job.

Hear hear!
 
Pretty bland attempt at a program by the BBC, everyone knows benefit fraud happens. It's already been documented up the wazoo and we see it on our streets everyday.

This is easy programme making, designed to enrage an incite. Judging by the replies in this thread it's done it's job.

Exactly.
 
I'd like to point out that some benefit claiming isn't as black and white as most people think. I currently receive Disability Living Allowance and have a Blue Badge (I have Rheumatoid Arthritis), and while one day I might be pretty much bed-bound, on others a photographer in some bush could quite easily snap me carrying my daughter into town or lugging about hefty shopping (all this is explained to the DWP every time I have to renew my claim, by the way). Just like many other people with health issues I often 'take the pain' to walk 'normally' and so on.



P.S. I haven't seen the film, so am not referring to the people in it.
 
Pretty bland attempt at a program by the BBC, everyone knows benefit fraud happens. It's already been documented up the wazoo and we see it on our streets everyday.

This is easy programme making, designed to enrage an incite. Judging by the replies in this thread it's done it's job.

Indeed.
 
Pretty bland attempt at a program by the BBC, everyone knows benefit fraud happens. It's already been documented up the wazoo and we see it on our streets everyday.

This is easy programme making, designed to enrage an incite. Judging by the replies in this thread it's done it's job.

2 minutes hate, yo!
 
That's a terrible idea, it's just another obstacle to getting work. I know you'll say 'take the bus', but how much of a pain would that be if you have multiple interviews to go to?
I would not go as far as too say people on the benefits should be banned from having a car but most people struggle to get by as it is on benefits because the government says that is the min amount of money they need to get by with the daily essentials and bills. A car is a luxury that only the hard working should have. But the guy in the program is driving a Bentley and is a land lord of a pub and is fully working.
 
I would not go as far as too say people on the benefits should be banned from having a car but most people struggle to get by as it is on benefits because the government says that is the min amount of money they need to get by with the daily essentials and bills. A car is a luxury that only the hard working should have. But the guy in the program is driving a Bentley and is a land lord of a pub and is fully working.

You're conflating benefit fraud with excessive benefits.
 
Presume the blokes had inherited money from parents or saved up a lot before they went on benefits and just using the benefits to top up while working on the sly, Incapcity is about £100 a week, so thats £5k a year for doing nothing.

Still shocks me how easy it is to fool the DWP but considering how incompetent the goverment is, its no wonder people try it.

Had to laugh at the immigrant from Mauritius coming to this country then trying to gain as much benefits as he could and people say that immigrants dont claim benefits, all that hard work in getting fake documents looking at the flat they lived in, flat screen tvs, all mod cons, no wonder the all flock here, load them onto a plane and fly him and his family back to Mauritius.
 
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I'd like to point out that some benefit claiming isn't as black and white as most people think. I currently receive Disability Living Allowance and have a Blue Badge (I have Rheumatoid Arthritis), and while one day I might be pretty much bed-bound, on others a photographer in some bush could quite easily snap me carrying my daughter into town or lugging about hefty shopping (all this is explained to the DWP every time I have to renew my claim, by the way). Just like many other people with health issues I often 'take the pain' to walk 'normally' and so on.



P.S. I haven't seen the film, so am not referring to the people in it.

People had been filmed playing golf, that is probably the worst sport to play, swing a club puts immense pressure on the back and they were 50+ not young people either.

One guy was playing football.
 
Still shocks me how easy it is to fool the DWP but considering how incompete the goverment is, its no wonder people try it.

On the DLA form it asks for the contact details of your GP, 'someone who knows you and your condition well' and consultant (if you have one). Then it asks your permission to contact them...you can tick 'no'. Surely a chat with the GP about the claimant should be mandatory? And the person I always put down as 'knowing me well' has never been contacted.
 
Nothing in this show was actually new. The worst thing is seeing the time it takes to resolve the cases and reclaim the property and stolen money....

Don't worry it could be worse. You could have paid towards the production of this program................. ;)

Carrying on from Edrof's point - not sure exactly how it works on mainland (presumably similar to here) but until the GP's stop being such a soft touch to sign people off as being unable to work you will always have this problem. If a GP never got paid for a consulataion for someone that was on DLA I'm sure there would be far fewer cases such as on the BBC program, sadly as always though the genuine will be effected by the idiots who misuse the system.
 
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On the DLA form it asks for the contact details of your GP, 'someone who knows you and your condition well' and consultant (if you have one). Then it asks your permission to contact them...you can tick 'no'. Surely a chat with the GP about the claimant should be mandatory? And the person I always put down as 'knowing me well' has never been contacted.

They don't have the time, the manpower or the will to follow up on that sort of thing.
 
How anyone can say the BBC has a left-wing bias when it churns out populist rubbish like this is beyond me.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...cator/annual-fraud-indicator-2011?view=Binary

The total cost of fraud to the UK economy is approximately £38bn (p7). Only £1.5bn of that is benefits and tax credit fraud, which is only 10% of the amount lost through tax evasion.

Odd how the media gears up everyone up to hate individuals committing fraud but is fairly happy to ignore Vodafone getting a sweet deal from HMRC to forget a few billion pounds in unpaid tax.
 
Wait, you think people on benefits should be banned from owning a car?

actually yes, if someone running a job on min wage couldn't afford to run a car everyday why should someone on benefits be given this luxury over someone who is actually working and actively contributing to society ? (Note does not include people on disability benefits as that is a different case in point)
 
How anyone can say the BBC has a left-wing bias when it churns out populist rubbish like this is beyond me.

http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/public...cator/annual-fraud-indicator-2011?view=Binary

The total cost of fraud to the UK economy is approximately £38bn (p7). Only £1.5bn of that is benefits and tax credit fraud, which is only 10% of the amount lost through tax evasion.

Odd how the media gears up everyone up to hate individuals committing fraud but is fairly happy to ignore Vodafone getting a sweet deal from HMRC to forget a few billion pounds in unpaid tax.
The word ONLY and £1.5bn don't mix.
 
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