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I_M_Weasel said:
Perhaps you could make servers have rank groups, that wont let a rank 1 join a rank 40 server, you'd have a bit of a range though, 1-10s together, 11-20s etc..
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in the days of Clan Matches on Modern Warfare you were all forced to use the default classes

No unlocks or anything else allowed. There was a server side variable which locked everybody to rank 1 and forced them to use the default classes

Its the only fair way to run a leage on games like this. But BF3 doesnt seem to support anything like this. So for internet ladders etc.. you've got level 45 Colonels with their F2000s and everything unlocked, going up against rank 20s with much much less kit and no access to the best gun.

Thats not fair in the slightest.

But as usual they get their knickers in a twist about silly things like the tac light.
 
MrLOL said:
in the days of Clan Matches on Modern Warfare you were all forced to use the default classes

No unlocks or anything else allowed. There was a server side variable which locked everybody to rank 1 and forced them to use the default classes

Its the only fair way to run a leage on games like this. But BF3 doesnt seem to support anything like this. So for internet ladders etc.. you've got level 45 Colonels with their F2000s and everything unlocked, going up against rank 20s with much much less kit and no access to the best gun.

Thats not fair in the slightest.

But as usual they get their knickers in a twist about silly things like the tac light.
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Leagues should all be set to a standard layout either everything unlocked or standard weapons unlocks.
 
MrLOL said:
in the days of Clan Matches on Modern Warfare you were all forced to use the default classes

No unlocks or anything else allowed. There was a server side variable which locked everybody to rank 1 and forced them to use the default classes

Its the only fair way to run a leage on games like this. But BF3 doesnt seem to support anything like this. So for internet ladders etc.. you've got level 45 Colonels with their F2000s and everything unlocked, going up against rank 20s with much much less kit and no access to the best gun.

Thats not fair in the slightest.

But as usual they get their knickers in a twist about silly things like the tac light.
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How is that in any way remotely fun? Just stupid imo
 
MrLOL said:
Why allow unlocked weapons and attachments at all then ?

If you want a level playing field everybody should be playing with default classes and weapons tbh.

If both sides have access to the same equipment, its completely fair. no matter how easy you might feel it makes it.
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Because DICE have simply not catered for the completive side of things and ESL are being fags about it.

BF3 needs a ProMod config - as you stated - Default weapons.
 
Swifty55 said:
'Cos Clan Matches are distinguished via skill/team work and not the "item" you use.

This is why CoD will always be better for competitive play. ESL have already set out rules for MW3 to cater ProMod rules.
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Yes but it sounds so pointless and in no way fun.

"Ok here is an awesome game that is loads of fun with lots of great features and millions of people playing it.
Now we want to make it competitive!! So as a result, we are going to remove EVERY feature of the game that makes it distinguishable from other FPS's and let you compete! NOW YOU HAVE TWO COPIES OF CS1.6 ON YOUR COMPUTER"

****ing stupid
 
rogueblade said:
Yes but it sounds so pointless and in no way fun.

"Ok here is an awesome game that is loads of fun with lots of great features and millions of people playing it.
Now we want to make it competitive!! So as a result, we are going to remove EVERY feature of the game that makes it distinguishable from other FPS's and let you compete! NOW YOU HAVE TWO COPIES OF CS1.6 ON YOUR COMPUTER"

****ing stupid
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I'm guessing you've NEVER played competitively? If not, then it's hard to explain why it's much better.

Also, it wouldn't remove every feature of the game, it simply limits your options to keep the matches balanced.
 
rogueblade said:
Yes but it sounds so pointless and in no way fun.

"Ok here is an awesome game that is loads of fun with lots of great features and millions of people playing it.
Now we want to make it competitive!! So as a result, we are going to remove EVERY feature of the game that makes it distinguishable from other FPS's and let you compete! NOW YOU HAVE TWO COPIES OF CS1.6 ON YOUR COMPUTER"

****ing stupid
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CS1.6 with better graphics and destruction? Count me in!
 
Unlocks don't make it different from any other FPS, COD has unlocks. To be properly competitive players have to be given an even field to play on, if that means restricting weapons used then so be it.
 
MrLOL said:
I'm arguing with the guy that says this is only because they use the IRNV scope.

You appear to be agreeing with me and highlight another way that players go off and play the game in their own way (by ignoring flags and sniping)

Think you've misunderstood the gist of our argument ?
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No the point is you talked about how you use it which was not the point.
The point is that many are starting to use it all the time no matter the conditions and and the only time that they are not using it is to level up another gun.

BF3 is starting to feel nothing like BF2 and i mean in bad way and not in a good way, i expect to get shot by a sniper i cant see from a long way off even in the direction im looking in, but now with the IRNV anyone can spot you from a long way off and start taking shots.

Its also makes it easier to hide and shoot people when your behind camouflage, yes it makes it hard for them to see you but it also obscures your view of them which is natural but with the IRNV its easer to shoot them when your behind camouflage and the only way to balance that is that the other person is using the IRNV as well.

IRNV makes it nearly impossible to go anywhere without being sported, the mini map may as well have everyone's positions highlighted constantly, some people would think that's ok as well.


Some of the flanking tactics that i have successfully used in all of the BF games before are nearly impossible to pull off and rely more on luck now because there is no 100% cover and there shouldn't be, but at least i had a better chance of breaking cover and not being notice and camouflage and shade is useless because i will be seen by anyone looking in that general direction with a IRNV.

The game is feeling more like COD with bigger maps and vehicles as time goes and i have plenty of COD games already thanks.
 
MrLOL said:
Its the playstyle of certain players that are the issue.Some people really do just lie around prone on the ground in bushes all the time shootnig at people who can't see them.

I had one guy kill me 6 times in a row on caspian border. Not a single time did i actually see him before he shot me. Silenced SCAR-H with IRNV scope. Each time he was lieing in a corner somewhere with his scope. Its players like this that get people on here raging and demanding it be nerfed.

I found his stats on battlelog:

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/uA DaVuT/stats/320562766/xbox/

244,000 engineer score and not a single repair lol !!!
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And that backs up what i just said.

The point is that if that player wants to play like that is OK to me, there will always be players like that, the problem is that IRNV scope makes it even easier for him to play like that and be more successful while making it harder for people who like a more diverse gameplay because its easier for the aforementioned player to kill you.
If it was not for the IRNV that player my well be inclined to use visual hack, he does not have to, being the IRNV gives him 90% of what he needs.
 
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Final8y said:
The game is feeling more like COD with bigger maps and vehicles as time goes and i have plenty of COD games already thanks.
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Oh Give over

its nothing like COD at all.

The only difference between this and the other battlefield games is that you appear to have developed sore bum syndrome.

I couldnt give a damn what scope they used. As i said earlier, i played a game of caspian border where 6 of my 10 deaths were from the same camper with an IRNV scope.

i was still MVP however, and on flag caputres, not kills. The camper had over double my kills, but i still had more points.
 
rogueblade said:
Yes but it sounds so pointless and in no way fun.

"Ok here is an awesome game that is loads of fun with lots of great features and millions of people playing it.
Now we want to make it competitive!! So as a result, we are going to remove EVERY feature of the game that makes it distinguishable from other FPS's and let you compete! NOW YOU HAVE TWO COPIES OF CS1.6 ON YOUR COMPUTER"

****ing stupid
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no the whole point of using it stripped down to basics no frills is it comes down to skills then and not silly add ons ;)

you all have same weapons perks then it will be skill teamwork that wins through.

this is why you should always in fps games just use the basics if you want to play comp side forget acogs silly perks use only iron sights and pure basics then everything else will seem easy

this game wont take off competitivly its not fast enough
 
I'm terrible at BF3, with BF2 I found that if I played the game with CPU player I got to a decent enough level where I knew what I was doing.

Any one got any ideas, do i just stick out the online mode and hope i don't get annoyed with it ?
 
play some smaller stuff like tdm so you know how the game spawns people and where people attack from and camp

you will learn the game a lot quicker like that
 
Adrianr said:
The problem with nerfing anything unless it is clearly out ahead of the pack by miles, is as soon you do the next gun/scope/perk that dare stick it's head above the parapet for being even partially good will get cried at for being OP. Face it gamers just love to moan :p
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Sorry but that blanket statement is not true because individually people have a dislike to specifics.
 
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