So called expert probably works for a drug company, great sales pitch! We must protect our multi-billion dollar industry even if it means telling the public porkies.
Antibiotic myths.
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So called expert probably works for a drug company, great sales pitch! We must protect our multi-billion dollar industry even if it means telling the public porkies.
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waste of money, not necessary, no scientific proof of benefit.
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Sorry to sound harsh in my previous post. Here's an off topic tip to save money.
Buy generic drugs e.g. sainsbury's/boots/tesco paracetamol, rather than the branded ones e.g. lemsip.
Lemsip is paracetamol + decongestant + some lemon flavour x 100 the price of a sainsbury's pack of paracetamol.
You can make your own, or you could take a 2p tablet of paracetamol, and drink a lemon drink instead, to much the same effect
Buy generic drugs e.g. sainsbury's/boots/tesco paracetamol, rather than the branded ones e.g. lemsip.
Lemsip is paracetamol + decongestant + some lemon flavour x 100 the price of a sainsbury's pack of paracetamol.
You can make your own, or you could take a 2p tablet of paracetamol, and drink a lemon drink instead, to much the same effect
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Sorry to sound harsh in my previous post. Here's an off topic tip to save money.
Buy generic drugs e.g. sainsbury's/boots/tesco paracetamol, rather than the branded ones e.g. lemsip.
Lemsip is paracetamol + decongestant + some lemon flavour x 100 the price of a sainsbury's pack of paracetamol.
You can make your own, or you could take a 2p tablet of paracetamol, and drink a lemon drink instead, to much the same effect
I always do this, ask for some Paracetamol and just get the cheapest packet, as long as it's the same strength, why pay more for a fancy name and packet?
Bad troll > someone who thinks they are clever having read a few websites. Unless of course you'd care to explain how this will be applied in a practical setting.
Seeing as it came from the senior lecturer in microbiology from my university I dont think its some internet rubbish.
Bobtail squid have a bacteria capable of producing light. If this bacteria is isolated, it won't produce light. If the bacteria is in the presence of many other bacteria which are producing chemical signals, the bacteria light up.
Proven research, and now being explored in a human setting. Take staphylococcus aureus, it lives harmlessly on your skin as part of your natural flora. If the bacterium detects a chance to gain more energy i.e rapid growth and infection, all the bacteria around the affected area grow rapidly and create an infection.
Therefore, find what the bacteria are doing with chemical signals, and stop them.
any other questions mr inquisitor?
Not yet, still waiting for you to tell me how this hypothetical stuff is going to be applied in the real world, in a realistic time frame etc
your ignorance is alarming
So is your inability to back up your assertions.
its very easy for you to sit behind your screen and pew pew what I say, but face the facts.
Antibiotic research is not seen as viable anymore by the big drug companies. Its not about new antibiotics, its about a new forms of treatment.
Agreed but that is not my issue here. I am well aware of that fact but you were prophesying something as viable when it quite clearly is in a highly theoretical phase with no guarantee of success or likelihood of practical implementation. Hence the "you are living in cloud cuckoo land" because if you think that's all going to be sorted to address the types of problems NDM1 and XDR-TB already pose then you are living in that far way off land. In 20 years - get peritonitis you die - get appendicitis you die - etc we are very close to a pre-Fleming age with no tangible counter and to pretend otherwise is to stick your head in the sand. This will be tackled by international co-operation and good infection control measures. We had our chance, we used it and we chucked it away. Simples. You can't simple boost the immune system we can see quite clearly what happens to heightened immune systems when they are removed from their natural environment: they attack the host with greater frequency. So unless you want a population suffering from SLE, MS etc then that is really not the way to go. Those are the facts.
Not quite, as antibody specificity is exact, meaning it only binds to unique molecules on a pathegens surface.
Which of course does not address the fact of how you treat blind using this technique. You can not. Therefore you would have to boost it across the board and run into the problems I detailed. And I am sure you know in the main we treat blind and if we do not then often we pass the point of no return.
Why on earth would we just treat blindly? We do that with antibacterials because by essence, they are broad spectrum. Antibodies are exactly specified for specific pathogens. Theres massive funding and research into faster and more accurate ways of diagnosing disease very early on so it can be treated far more quickly than ever before. This coupled with antibody research is the right way to go.
Because there is a limit to how fast we can diagnose therefore we would need some method or broad acting treatment if antibiotics could no longer be used. Therefore such an action would not be specific but would be general which was taken from your post that I replied to:
Rather than a specific action against a known pathogen where a set route could be gone down. Might be at cross purposes here but my understanding was you were arguing for boosting the immune system into "hyperdrive" etc if you catch my drift and I was pointing out the consequences of such an action.
Coming from a GF who is a pharmacist, trust me, finish the course. Can't remember the stat, but if you feel better 2/3rds the way through, chances are the illness will recur within a short time frame and more ABs will have to be prescribed.
I have a friend with two kids and he rarely makes sure they've finished the course. Probably one of the reasons that they are always ill.
I have a friend with two kids and he rarely makes sure they've finished the course. Probably one of the reasons that they are always ill.
