'man' feeds kitten to his pet snake

bhavv · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:24

+1 for more fluffy cute animal BS.

Guy owns a snake.

Snake must be fed

Guy feeds a kitten to his snake.

This is absolutely nothing like putting a cat in a microwave, its simply an animal eating another animal, and its actually the snake that should be guilty but everyone jumps at lynching the owner cos 'oh noes, a cute fuzzly kitty kat was given to a snake as food'.

In China humans eat cats. In India they throw rocks at wild cats for giggles.

>Insert first world problems.jpg here< - 'Oh noes, I saw a snake eat a kitty kat, its the end of the world'.

Stupid humans, go suck on the RSPCAs / Petas balls or something.

Nitefly · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:29

bhavv said:
+1 for more fluffy cute animal BS.

Guy owns a snake.

Snake must be fed

Guy feeds a kitten to his snake.

This is absolutely nothing like putting a cat in a microwave, its simply an animal eating another animal, and its actually the snake that should be guilty but everyone jumps at lynching the owner cos 'oh noes, a cute fuzzly kitty kat was given to a snake as food'.

In China humans eat cats. In India they throw rocks at wild cats for giggles.

>Insert first world problems.jpg here< - 'Oh noes, I saw a snake eat a kitty kat, its the end of the world'.

Stupid humans, go suck on the RSPCAs / Petas balls or something.

Actually, it IS like putting a cat in a microwave. Both exhibit killing an animal for amusement. The fact a snake got its lunch is incidental and to say otherwise misses the point completely. The guy who made the video has a screw loose.

bhavv · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:37

No its nothing like putting a cat in a microwave.

Its feeding a pet higher up the food chain with an animal lower down. No harm was actually caused by the person.

Its the same thing as videos of snakes being fed mice or rats, but you never hear any outrage over those.

Nitefly · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:44

bhavv said:
No its nothing like putting a cat in a microwave.

Its feeding a pet higher up the food chain with an animal lower down.

Its the same thing as videos of snakes being fed mice or rats, but you never hear any outrage over those.

I don't doubt that there is a lot of outrage over the fact that the victim is 'fluffy', which is a bit silly. But you are looking at this from the wrong angle - feeding snakes live food is not an immoral thing. However, Killing an animal purely for the purposes of entertainment is. Thus killing an animal purely for the purposes of entertainment is still a bad thing even if that animal is eaten by another.

The entire presentation of the video gives it a grim and immoral purpose.

Lightnix · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:49

bhavv said:
No its nothing like putting a cat in a microwave.

Its feeding a pet higher up the food chain with an animal lower down.

Its the same thing as videos of snakes being fed mice or rats, but you never hear any outrage over those.

Oh come on, he paraded the cat around in a Christmas hat. He was trying to shock and entertain people. He used suffering for that purpose. He caused unnecessary suffering to an animal for the sake of his own amusement. He might as well have stuck the thing in a blender for all it matters.

It is the intent that matters here - he did not place that cat in with that snake as a matter of necessity, he did it for his own gratification. You can try to undermine that point with vacuous nonsense about "first world problems", but it is you who has the skewed sense of morality if you think that animal cruelty for the sake of amusement is acceptable.

Here are some examples to demonstrate:

Right: "My snake needs to be fed and it only eats live food so I'll feed it some live food."

Wrong: "I'm going to post some videos on the internet of my snake eating the cutest animal I can find because I think that'd be kind of funny"

dowie · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:52

bhavv said:
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In China humans eat cats. In India they throw rocks at wild cats for giggles.

LOL yeah those two countries are awesome examples of civilised societies we should look up to :rolleyes:

In Afghanistan they're into molesting little boys - perhaps that should somehow justify the behaviour of sex offenders in the UK?

dowie · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:55

bhavv said:
No its nothing like putting a cat in a microwave.

Its feeding a pet higher up the food chain with an animal lower down. No harm was actually caused by the person.

Its the same thing as videos of snakes being fed mice or rats, but you never hear any outrage over those.

He was killing the cat for the entertainment/shock value - it was or relatively little benefit to the snake nor is it something that would have likely occurred in the wild.

As has already been pointed out there is rarely any need to feed pet snakes live food.

AiiR · 4 Dec 2011 at 02:55

bhavv said:
No its nothing like putting a cat in a microwave.

Its feeding a pet higher up the food chain with an animal lower down. No harm was actually caused by the person.

Is that not where the problem lies though? You're essentially forcing a live animal to it's death. Regardless of the method, that's pretty cruel in my opinion.
It's clearly a motive for entertainment, it's not as if the guy mistakenly assumed that kittens were part of a snake's natural diet.

bhavv · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:02

BUT NO ONE WOULD HAVE GIVEN A CRAP ABOUT THIS IF IT WAS A RAT INSTEAD OF A KITTEN

Nitefly · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:04

bhavv said:
BUT NO ONE WOULD HAVE GIVEN A CRAP ABOUT THIS IF IT WAS A RAT INSTEAD OF A KITTEN

Possibly, but I'd still think it was sick if it was done in the same way.

cm1179 · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:05

robfosters said:
The ignorance of some on this forum towards keeping reps is staggering.

99.9% of repltile keepers are completely against the feeding of live food. in this day and age it is unecessary. All captive bred snakes can be fed dead food. They are given it from birth. It is only wild caught imported snakes that have the problem of refusing dead food. This can be reversed in the vast majority of snakes with decent care and attention. A small number may refuse completely and I am of the belief that those snakes should be euthanised if a return to the wild is not possible.

The big issue is getting people educated in wild caught animals and convincing them not to buy them from pet shops. Some snakes are extremely hard to breed in captivity and therefore, many are taken from the wild. This was a major problem with Royal Pythons in the 80's and early 90's. These particular snakes are beautiful, gentle animals and make great pets, but when breeding was less understood, the locals in Togo and Ghana used to go rounding them up for the pet trade. It paid them fortunes compared to the usual jobs. The problem being is that they are an incredibly nervous snake and the sudden change in conditions meant many simply refused to feed and starved to death. An awful situation. Luckily, this has changed in the last 10 years and they are now almost exclusively bred in captivity.

So no, snake owners do not feed their snakes live food and anyone that does is not a responsible owner and should be prosecuted and have their animals seized.

Anyway, cats are not a suitable food item for a snake. Snakes eat mainly herbivorous animals. They get their vitamins from the contents of the prey items stomach. Cats are carnivores and don't carry these vitamins in them. Suitable prey items for snakes include mice, rats, guinea pigs, hamsters and rabbits. Maybe the occasional small pig for extremely large snakes.

i like this post

cm1179 · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:06

bhavv said:
BUT NO ONE WOULD HAVE GIVEN A CRAP ABOUT THIS IF IT WAS A RAT INSTEAD OF A KITTEN

that's the point!!!

rats are not cats/kittens

bhavv · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:07

Possibly? So if he had used a rat instead he would be being chased down for a potential 20k fine and 6 months imprisonment with everyone and their mothers complaining about how evil and wrong it is?

Tombo · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:10

Muzza1875 said:
Same guy? Needs to be caught and tortured asap.

Robbo said:
What utter scum, one can only hope the guy dies in a car crash before he has the chance to do this again.

cm1179 said:
if someone kicked him into a coma, i'd buy them a beer. sincerely.

Muzza1875 said:
a sick and twisted little **** that needs to be put to death!.

People must be beaten, tortured and killed over a cat or a few cats, lol society.

Didn't include TANK in there because I consider that being posted just to get a reaction (ironically)

^TANK^ · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:13

Tombo you missed out mine.

^TANK^ · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:17

Tombo said:
Didn't include TANK in there because I consider that being posted just to get a reaction (ironically)

I sincerely meant it I'll have you know, the scrote in question needs a ****ing good hiding.

dowie · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:18

bhavv said:
BUT NO ONE WOULD HAVE GIVEN A CRAP ABOUT THIS IF IT WAS A RAT INSTEAD OF A KITTEN

Erm well yes, that's rather obvious isn't is... :rolleyes:

In other news, if McDonalds started selling kitten burgers there would likely be an outcry too...

Rroff · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:21

I don't agree with it (tho I'm not gonna get up in arms about it) but our science teacher at school used to feed his snakes live fluffy little chickens infront of a class of 11-12yros and no one batted an eye lid.

If that was done these days they've have probably had his job for it at the very least, suprised if they can even bring snakes into school any more.

I do find feeding kittens to a snake abhorrent, but the human race is sick and twisted as a whole unfortunatly and thats not going to change any time soon.

Totality · 4 Dec 2011 at 03:37

What's weird with this is that people are ranting on about finding HIM when you can see its a HER at the start and it's one person controlling the camera not multiple.

It's as if people have a knee jerk reaction and don't look at the simplest of facts!

bushmins · 4 Dec 2011 at 04:24

Id have the cat put down.