'man' feeds kitten to his pet snake

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I'm actually annoyed that people are annoyed by this story! Whilst it is pretty disturbed, it's something people do all the time with similar animals.

People feed live snakes rats and mice all the time and nobody bats an eyelid, yet giving the snake an equally small and fluffy animal for some reason drives people crazy.

There are poor animals being tortured all over the world by humans. Lots of the food we eat still isn't kept, and killed humanely.

Personally I am disgusted that battery hen's are still a thing in this country but most people couldn't care less about the horrible conditions that chickens are often kept in. Then the Sun posts an article about a kitten and suddenly everyone is in uproar?!
 
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Glaucus said:
that laws should be based on evidence rather than some wispy washy moral grounds.
And that's the point, if it's not qauntifiable. Then it is emotion based and should not be law and people should learn about their double standards and reevaluate their stance. Of course that will never happen though. Due to media and pressure being in breed into kids from a young age.
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The law is based on evidence that the animal suffers unnecessarily.
 
Jambo said:
The law is based on evidence that the animal suffers unnecessarily.
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No, the law is based on public opinions, not evidence.
Unessecery suffering, was it tortured? Held in appalling conditions? Have a prolonged death?

Iif it was based on suffering huge sectors would be taken to court as well.
 
dfarrall said:
Originally Posted by Glaucus View Post
So everyone from a hundred years ago had a much higher chance of sociopath tendencies.
I don't think so in the slightest.

It's amassive shame that society has come so removed from nature and the food source that most of society partake it. Many of these laws are based on fluffy cute animal rubbish.
People need to realise what nature is and where there food comes from. It's like so many people are against hunting, but eat meat.
This pretty much sums up my views. It's hardly much different from feeding anything else.

This pretty much sums up my views. It's hardly much different from feeding anything else.
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I agree also, i dont find anything wrong with feeding anything to anything else live personally, but i dont agree with the dressing up of the kitten etc for fun.
 
Glaucus said:
No, the law is based on public opinions, not evidence.
Unessecery suffering, was it tortured? Held in appalling conditions? Have a prolonged death?

Iif it was based on suffering huge sectors would be taken to court as well.
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(4)The power under subsection (3)(a) or (c) may only be exercised if the appropriate national authority is satisfied, on the basis of scientific evidence, that animals of the kind concerned are capable of experiencing pain or suffering.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/1

I'm pretty sure that if scientific evidence of suffering is required to extend the law to invertebrates then it was key to the introduction of the law for vertebrates.
 
Glaucus said:
Did he buy the cat as a pet?
You can buy mice as food or pet. What makes those animals have two uses and cats one? Again what is the actual tangiable real difference. Some people have rabbits as pets, I see them as food. There are many animals that are dual use and don't have the stigma attached to them. That stigma is based on emotion. Nothing real or actual.
I also would have no problem eating horse, cat, dog abroad. I might only try it once due to taste.
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I agree whole heartedly, i own 2 springer spaniels which i use to hunt, they come out shooting wiht me and retrieve my game, which is generally Rabbit or pidgeon, To me a rabbit is nothing but vermin and food, to my wife its a fluffy cute animal and im horrible for shooting them, same goes for dear, she just thinks of bambi etc.
 
Why are battery hens still allowed?
Notice it's also uneasceray suffering, not suffering.

The law certainly isn't based on facts.
Take the fox hunting ban! Where the official report said other legal methods cause just as much distress.
Take the ban on song birds
Take the carouse laws becuase certain. Animals are seen pups rely as pets.
 
no one should defend this person, he's obviously not mentally stable. if he was, he would know that this is not a humane thing to do. it's not the same as feeding a mouse or rat that has been bred, to the snake at all.

the bloke needs finding and locking up before he takes things further. if someone kicked him into a coma, i'd buy them a beer. sincerely.
 
cm1179 said:
it's not the same as feeding a mouse or rat that has been bred, to the snake at all.
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I'm not defending the guy as honestly I think the way he went about it was bordering on disturbing. That being said, why is it you think it's "not the same" as if he had done the same, but with a rat/mouse instead of a kitten? Personally I see no difference other than one of peoples perceptions of cats as pets rather than food.
 
Glaucus said:
Why are battery hens still allowed?
Notice it's also uneasceray suffering, not suffering.

The law certainly isn't based on facts.
Take the fox hunting ban! Where the official report said other legal methods cause just as much distress.
Take the ban on song birds
Take the carouse laws becuase certain. Animals are seen pups rely as pets.
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The Animal Welfare Act protects all farm animals, and farmers can be prosecuted if they cause unnecessary suffering to them.
 
Clum said:
I'm not defending the guy as honestly I think the way he went about it was bordering on disturbing. That being said, why is it you think it's "not the same" as if he had done the same, but with a rat/mouse instead of a kitten? Personally I see no difference other than one of peoples perceptions of cats as pets rather than food.
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because we are a nation of domesticating cats, not breeding them to feed to animals. it's quite as simple as that. there is no need or purpose for a snake to eat a cat, in a domestic environment, especially if it's a forced act. i agree, this does boil down to a perception but this is the case in many acts of cruelty and how it is defined.
 
Jambo said:
The Animal Welfare Act protects all farm animals, and farmers can be prosecuted if they cause unnecessary suffering to them.
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"Unnecessary suffering" is a bit ambiguous at best though isn't it. With battery hens, it is still significant suffering, however just deemed necessary unfortunately.
 
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