Phenom's disappearing from online stores

Gashman · 4 Dec 2011 at 09:52

wannabedamned said:
Yeah, only requires a completely different socket. A socket that seems more geared towards the HTPC crowds.

Not for gamers if you ask me

what isn't gamer about FM1? how can a socket be 'not for gamers?' :confused:

wannabedamned · 4 Dec 2011 at 09:59

Gashman said:
what isn't gamer about FM1? how can a socket be 'not for gamers?'

Not talking about the socket, More about the APUs available on that socket. Who would build a gaming PC around a FM1 socket?

Gashman · 4 Dec 2011 at 10:02

wannabedamned said:
Not talking about the socket, More about the CPUs available on that socket. Who would build a gaming PC around a FM1 socket?

anyone wanting a cheap, highly clockable quad-core (Athlon II X4 FM1 ~£60) on a nice featured micro ATX board running a single graphics card? doesn't sound like such a bad option in that market, its either that or a more expensive I3.

mmj_uk · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:12

Gashman said:
anyone wanting a cheap, highly clockable quad-core (Athlon II X4 FM1 ~£60) on a nice featured micro ATX board running a single graphics card? doesn't sound like such a bad option in that market, its either that or a more expensive I3.

It's still a big step backwards compared to Phenom.

Granted it's a sub-£100 quad core but CPU performance is a lot lower than Phenom (since it's basically a lower clocked Athlon) and the motherboards are quite basic by comparison.

The onboard GPU is the stand out feature of the Llano range, if you're not going to use it then you'd may as well just grab a second hand Athlon/Phenom and 990FX.

Dicehunter · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:28

Well its either Llano or bulldozer then, looking forward to the 8170

Martini1991 · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:34

sr4470 said:
The 960T is near enough the same thing, go buy one and try unlocking it, you might even end up with a sub-£100 hex core processor.

It's still a Phenom II, and won't be manufactured anymore.

Intel need to release a 2120K under 100 to take advantage of AMD's blunder with the FX4.

Tibbz2 · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:39

It was between the Phenom II and i3 of which way to go with my build soon, but I decided i3 was the way to go for me, so I could upgrade to Ivy or i5.

Shame the Phenom's are going though

Martini1991 · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:40

If Intel release a 2120K, or even a 2100K, then that would be an amazing option.

MOOGLEYS · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:40

Simon D said:
Thanks

What model number was your MSI board?

MSI-870A -G54 FX

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-134-MS&groupid=701&catid=1903&subcat=1782

When I wen't in to collect the board they gave me the FX model with AM3+ support. It's only listed on the site as AM3.. Probably just a board revision as the spec is the same apart from the Cpu socket.

Alkalinepro5 · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:45

I think CPU wise I'm good for another year or two. My 6870 always craps out waaayy before my 965BE is even close to its limits..

7950 + 8GB ram is next on my list.

MOOGLEYS · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:47

The 960T is a superb buy if they are still available. A 6 core cpu at 4ghz for less than a hundred quid is amazing value.

Martini1991 · 4 Dec 2011 at 12:59

Alkalinepro5 said:
I think CPU wise I'm good for another year or two. My 6870 always craps out waaayy before my 965BE is even close to its limits..

7950 + 8GB ram is next on my list.

Then the Phenom II would probably crap out before your 7950

Marine-RX179 · 4 Dec 2011 at 13:20

mmj_uk said:
We're going to be stuck with the choice between i3 and FX4 at the £100 mark soon, a dual core with HT versus a quad core that performs like a dual core, only when highly overclocked, and when games uses all four cores... no more great value quads.

Fixed it for you

Yea, I agree with some others here...really want a i3 2100K/2120K for £100 range

MOOGLEYS · 4 Dec 2011 at 13:23

Not putting that intel muck in my pc. I refuse to buy anything with a "i" in it's name......

Martini1991 · 4 Dec 2011 at 13:25

MOOGLEYS said:
Not putting that intel muck in my pc. I refuse to buy anything with a "i" in it's name......

Phenom ii

Agnostic · 4 Dec 2011 at 13:43

It's the same with Scan UK. Glad I managed to order mine before they got rid of them.

Surveyor · 4 Dec 2011 at 13:48

Agnostic said:
It's the same with a competitor to OcUK who shall not be mentioned. Glad I managed to order mine before they got rid of them.

Edited for you

Gashman · 4 Dec 2011 at 17:25

mmj_uk said:
It's still a big step backwards compared to Phenom.

Granted it's a sub-£100 quad core but CPU performance is a lot lower than Phenom (since it's basically a lower clocked Athlon) and the motherboards are quite basic by comparison.

The onboard GPU is the stand out feature of the Llano range, if you're not going to use it then you'd may as well just grab a second hand Athlon/Phenom and 990FX.

yeah not saying I would personally go for FM1, especially with FM2 and Trinity mere months away, but its a valid option non the less. also sure its a lower clocked Athlon II by default, but they are apparently great clockers at quite low voltages. so with some good cooling and a good voltage bump they might clock like mad, and FM1 motherboards aren't anything special, but they are also nothing bad, I personally prefer my motherboards to be filled with crap that I don't need or want.

processor socket, ram slots, PCI-E slot and PCI-E peripheral slot, nice layout, couple of USB ports and what more do 99% of people need? :confused:

Alkalinepro5 · 4 Dec 2011 at 20:10

Martini1991 said:
Then the Phenom II would probably crap out before your 7950

Possibly at sub 1920x1080 resolutions, but I don't game at less than that ^_^

Also we have no idea what its going to be like :>

I really cba to spend loads on my PC these days...

When I can get an 8-core ivybridge for £100 let me know xD