Another tram experience... 96 year old WW2 veteran beat by a black man, gets no jail time

Fenris said:
Well if you want to make yourself as bad as the scumbag in the story be my guest, just don't come whining to the world when you quite rightly get done for assault, "they deserved it" is not a valid legal defence.
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How would giving that guy a good kicking make you as bad as him. He attacked a defenceless old man and you would be protecting the guy.

I would hate to live in a world that abides by your morals. You would not get in trouble if you knocked the other guy out and waited for the police to come and arrest him.

People like you try and rationalise their cowardice by telling themselves they did the right thing but the truth is that morals like yours allow scumbags to get away with attacking the weak and defenceless.
 
Can we please try to keep to the GD norm and ensure that this thread descends into squabbling couples, please? Also, if there's one thing this forum lacks, it's Daily Mail-esque opinions, so somebody rectify that quick-smart, would you? A smattering of sweeping ethnic generalisations would be great aswell, ta. Oh, y'all did already. Don't mind me, lolz.
 
I hope that black man goes home feeling all smug, then a German WW2 discarded bomb blows up under his scum dwellings.


That would be justice.
 
Fenris said:
Clearly your skills of precognition make you the best choice for this.
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Clearly it is obvious that if someone is getting aggressive, especially in a crowd of people that they could stop that aggression from escalating into overt violence, or at the very least stop the violence the minute it begins so that the innocent victim suffers a little physical violence as possible.

In this case interceding when the offender began to push his way past the victim.....that not one adult on that Tram did anything either before, during or after the assault and it took two children to report it and follow the offender is disgraceful.

You don't have to prescient to realise when someone is getting aggitated to the point of violence.
 
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What we should be asking is,

Where are people like that being bred from?
What families are creating more of these kind of people? (just like the racist Chav vid)?
What measures can be put in place to stop more coming along?
What are the underline causes of this kind of behaviour?

I'm more interesting in preventing another mindless scum-bag beat on a frail old world war veteran than equally mindless revenge.
 
elmarko1234 said:
What we should be asking is,

Where are people like that being bred from?
What families are creating more of these kind of people? (just like the racist Chav vid)?
What measures can be put in place to stop more coming along?
What are the underline causes of this kind of behaviour?

I'm more interesting in preventing another mindless scum-bag beat on a frail old world war veteran than equally mindless revenge.
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it's Just a Croydon thing people from there trying to get out of the borough it drives them crazy when lost
 
Castiel said:
Clearly it is obvious that if someone is getting aggressive, especially in a crowd of people that they could stop that aggression from escalating into overt violence, or at the very least stop the violence the minute it begins so that the innocent victim suffers a little physical violence as possible.

In this case interceding when the offender began to push his way past the victim.....that not one adult on that Tram did anything either before, during or after the assault and it took two children to report it and follow the offender is disgraceful.

You don't have to prescient to realise when someone is getting aggitated to the point of violence.
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So a person is trying to get off a tram, and someone is blocking his way making him mad. You see this and you think that you should immediately step up, and push the angry man back a bit, further causing hindrance to him trying to get off the bus :confused:

No, I really dont think you would have done anything at that moment in time TBH.
 
bhavv said:
So a person is trying to get off a tram, and someone is blocking his way making him mad. You see this and you think that you should immediately step up, and push the angry man back a bit, further causing hindrance to him trying to get off the bus :confused:

No, I really dont think you would have done anything at that moment in time TBH.
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If I saw someone push an elderly person whatever the circumstances, then I would intercede. You don't have to push anyone or be violent...simply interjecting would at least give the offender pause, and give them something else to worry about rather than an old man.....equally if he was getting angry, simply telling the offender to calm down would shift his focus from the old man onto you, again interrupting the chain of events which potentially could lead to the old man being hurt.

That the majority of people think as you and would rather not get involved or are too scared of being a victim themselves is part of the problem....it allows people like the offender in the OP to assume he can do something like this without fear of retribution or being stopped.

The minimum someone could have done is stopped the offender leaving the tram and/or calling the Police, not leaving it up to two Children to do the right thing.
 
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I do feel sorry for the police, the public takes it out on them for not delivering, when they hand over a case, and our system lets them down. We should be tougher on cases like this.

I hope the kids that chased him got a reward of some kind.
 
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