Russia steps in against UK/USA/Israeli

Craterloads · 9 Dec 2011 at 21:46

[TW]Fox;20517056 said:
Are you saying Sky News have dubbed his speech over the various speeches he's made?

How come you are so much more in the loop than us gullible plebs who watch Sky News?

Heres some latest Rupert Murdoch crap over at Foxnews.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...thens-riots-footage-for-Russian-protests.html

Raz · 10 Dec 2011 at 00:29

bhavv said:
Iraq was a huge mistake, waste of money, waste of time, waste of everything.

Iran's leader however is a complete nutcase and madman.

And Saddam was what? A good old decent guy who just happen to kill a few people?

And lets face it, even if Iran had nukes they'd only have them as a deterrent - they generally don't go around invading other countries, nor are they so stupid that they would attack the UK, let alone Israel, just because they could.

bhavv · 10 Dec 2011 at 00:41

Raz said:
And Saddam was what? A good old decent guy who just happen to kill a few people?

He did stuff like this over a decade ago though, why did it take 10-15 years for the US to act upon it if that was the reason?

The official reason that the US gave for the invasion was that Iraq had WMDs, but that was never proven.

The places that Iraq attacked were actually enemies of Israel as well - Funny how Iraq cant attack Israel's enemies, but the US / UK can?

101001101 · 10 Dec 2011 at 00:42

LateX'Dog said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15617657

Waiting for this report from the UN to be released (If it does). Could be a pretty scary week.

Russia can say all they like but I have no doubt Israel will launch some kind of attack on Iran with or without the US approval between now and mid 2012

Sankari · 10 Dec 2011 at 00:47

This is all pointless sabre rattling from the usual suspects.

"If you do [wildly stupid thing that nobody actually intends to do] then we'll respond by [empty threat of retribution]."

It's like Australia threatening Lichtenstein that we'll nuke them if they attack Malta.

101001101 · 10 Dec 2011 at 00:52

Make no mistake Israel WILL tackle Iran directly with or without US support in 2012, guaranteed

Vespasian777 · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:01

elmarko1234 said:
Have to agree here.

While I dislike the idea of any nation getting nukes, those who ALREADY have them (who have recently got involved in ILLEGAL wars) - do not have the right to criticise anybody.

Look at the USA's military history over the last 50 years - then compare it to Iran's.

Who is the bigger warmonger?.

No. Let's look at USA's military history over the last 70 years. They started off by saving us, or do you think we were doing really well against the Japs and the Germans. Saved us, as well as god knows how many other countries, and they've tried since to protect the notion of democracy worldwide. I'm not saying they've always got it just right, but if it wasn't for the USA the world would be truly ****ed.

Vespasian777 · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:18

101001101 said:
Make no mistake Israel WILL tackle Iran directly with or without US support in 2012, guaranteed

Good. Lets get the ****ers tackled.

titaniumx3 · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:28

I consider Israel a much bigger threat to world peace than Iran will ever be. You have a whole nation of nutcases there, not just a few officials.

Raz · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:30

Vespasian777 said:
No. Let's look at USA's military history over the last 70 years. They started off by saving us, or do you think we were doing really well against the Japs and the Germans. Saved us, as well as god knows how many other countries, and they've tried since to protect the notion of democracy worldwide. I'm not saying they've always got it just right, but if it wasn't for the USA the world would be truly ****ed.

Only if it works in their favour.

Vespasian777 · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:40

Raz said:
Only if it works in their favour.

If America is so self interested, why don't they just stay at home then. Maybe then they wouldn't have a national debt of god knows how many trillion dollars.

Vespasian777 · 10 Dec 2011 at 01:48

titaniumx3 said:
I consider Israel a much bigger threat to world peace than Iran will ever be. You have a whole nation of nutcases there, not just a few officials.

Have they been burning the Union Jack and looting Embassies lately in Israel? Oh no, wait, it was in Iran. Or was what we saw on the T.V was just some propaganda, put out by the British Government? Stroll on.

ennogs · 10 Dec 2011 at 02:08

If Israel attacks Iran I believe that will be the start of world war 3. Both Russia and China have warned Irael not to attack.

ennogs · 10 Dec 2011 at 02:16

Glaucus said:
It's not really a warning or even saying they would get involved.
Just saying they think it's a bad idea.

It sounds like to me they are saying it is bad idea in a mafia sort of way. They may be saying they think it is bad idea but what the really mean is don't you dare.

Also China has publicly said they are prepared to start world war 3 if Iran is attacked.

Lima · 10 Dec 2011 at 02:28

ennogs said:
It sounds like to me they are saying it is bad idea in a mafia sort of way. They may be saying they think it is bad idea but what the really mean is don't you dare.

Also China has publicly said they are prepared to start world war 3 if Iran is attacked.

Erm.....pretty sure they have said no such thing.....what is your source?

AberystwythLAD · 10 Dec 2011 at 03:47

I would love Russia to bomb the USA and I'm being seriously. Totally annihilate the country!

Sankari · 10 Dec 2011 at 04:23

101001101 said:
Make no mistake Israel WILL tackle Iran directly with or without US support in 2012, guaranteed

Thanks for letting us know. I look forward to great hilarity next year. Make sure you stick around to explain why nothing happened.

I am reminded of Teki187's 'massive US naval armada heading for Iran' three years ago. He was so desperate for WWIII but it didn't happen. 2008's biggest anticlimax!

Vespasian777 said:
No. Let's look at USA's military history over the last 70 years. They started off by saving us, or do you think we were doing really well against the Japs and the Germans. Saved us, as well as god knows how many other countries

It was the Russians who saved Europe, not the USA.

and they've tried since to protect the notion of democracy worldwide.

I laughed so hard, I burst a major organ. Seriously, that is not even vaguely close to the truth.

I'm not saying they've always got it just right, but if it wasn't for the USA the world would be truly ****ed.

Completely false. In fact, some of the world's worst current problems were directly caused by the USA, including various dictatorships aided and abetted by the US, which deliberately organised coups to overthrow democratically elected governments and install US-friendly leaders who later went rogue.

Iran is a case in point, ironically enough.

RDM · 10 Dec 2011 at 09:03

Evangelion said:
It was the Russians who saved Europe, not the USA.

An objective look at the history of WW2 would suggest it was both. Not to mention without the US the Russians probably wouldn't have stopped at Berlin...

simpletom · 10 Dec 2011 at 10:44

Vespasian777 said:
No. Let's look at USA's military history over the last 70 years. They started off by saving us, or do you think we were doing really well against the Japs and the Germans. Saved us, as well as god knows how many other countries, and they've tried since to protect the notion of democracy worldwide. I'm not saying they've always got it just right, but if it wasn't for the USA the world would be truly ****ed.

Wow, you're so naive...

It was the Russians who saved Europe, not the USA.

From what I have gathered, Western Europe was not Hiter's main intentions, it was the Slavs and Eastern Europe. I'd actually considered the above a pretty accurate statement. The Russians shown the Germans could be stopped (at Stalingrad) and defeated.

If it weren't for the Russians, we'd certainly be knackered.

Jono8 · 10 Dec 2011 at 10:58

Evangelion said:
It was the Russians who saved Europe, not the USA.

worms all over the place! Can't contain them!