Another tram experience... 96 year old WW2 veteran beat by a black man, gets no jail time

Biohazard · 10 Dec 2011 at 16:53

dirtydog said:
I posted links earlier. You don't accept them because you don't like what they say.

I don't accept the accuracy as you portray it for the points I laid out that you refuse to refute or acknowlege other than hyperbole.

If you have a valid point to make that can be proven without doubt, I will accept it. You haven't here.

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 16:56

Nothing I could ever say would convince you of anything. If I said the sun was hot you'd swear blind it was cold.

Biohazard · 10 Dec 2011 at 16:57

dirtydog said:
Nothing I could ever say would convince you of anything. If I said the sun was hot you'd swear blind it was cold.

That isn't true, now do you want to continue discussing the evidence or are you out?

Castiel · 10 Dec 2011 at 17:42

Biohazard said:
That isn't true, now do you want to continue discussing the evidence or are you out?

I think he is out.....

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:04

dirtydog said:
Nothing I could ever say would convince you of anything. If I said the sun was hot you'd swear blind it was cold.

No-one would ever think that. However you are right in what you say concerning the higher amount of ethnic minorities per head, but not the percentages. I live in a place where the statistics are seriously skewed however I would never be able to prove it unless you all stayed at my house for a year or two.

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:07

mollymoo said:
No-one would ever think that. However you are right in what you say concerning the higher amount of ethnic minorities per head, but not the percentages. I live in a place where the statistics are seriously skewed however I would never be able to prove it unless you all stayed at my house for a year or two.

Is that an offer? I'll pack my suitcase

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:09

dirtydog said:
Is that an offer? I'll pack my suitcase

I'll make a bed up

However be warned it would be your idea of hell here.

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:10

All those Scottish accents?

edit - actually LOL just googled it, I thought it was Scottish

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:17

http://http://www.findmyschool.co.uk/schooldetails.aspx?id=19103

That's just up the road, it's the same area they found a bomb factory, your idea of hell I would presume.

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:25

I've been to Blackburn

Watched their football team as well. Back in 97 that was.

Castiel · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:28

mollymoo said:
http://http://www.findmyschool.co.uk/schooldetails.aspx?id=19103

That's just up the road, it's the same area they found a bomb factory, your idea of hell I would presume.

I assume you are referring to Oswaldtwistle?

According to, dare I say it, Wikipedia, the district borough it resides in is 90.2% white and 8.4% S.Asian.....(and is a relatively high percentage when compared to some other regions.)

Of course if the 8.4% is congregated around a small specific area then it would certainly appear to be more predominantly Asian in that area/s......which leads to something I mentioned earlier regarding segregation and the problems of integration when mass immigration happens over the short term...something that Labours policies regarding immigration encouraged and has led to this lack of social cohesion in certain areas.

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:32

Castiel said:
I assume you are referring to Oswaldtwistle?

According to, dare I say it, Wikipedia, the district borough it resides in is 90.2% white and 8.4% S.Asian.....

Of course if the 8.4% is congregated around a small specific area then it would certainly appear to be more predominantly Asian in that area/s......which leads to something I mentioned earlier regarding segregation and the problems of integration when mass immigration happens over the short term...something that Labours policies regarding immigration encouraged and has led to this lack of social cohesion in certain areas.

I bet you are a lot of fun at parties

Castiel · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:36

dirtydog said:
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties

You talk about demographics at parties...... :eek:

I'm too busy getting hammered and looking at the totty surreptitiously so my wife doesn't notice....

dirtydog · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:38

Good plan

Von Smallhausen · 10 Dec 2011 at 18:56

An ex marine should ooze stealth in that department.

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2011 at 19:04

dirtydog said:
I bet you are a lot of fun at parties

Castiel said:
I assume you are referring to Oswaldtwistle?

According to, dare I say it, Wikipedia, the district borough it resides in is 90.2% white and 8.4% S.Asian.....(and is a relatively high percentage when compared to some other regions.)

Of course if the 8.4% is congregated around a small specific area then it would certainly appear to be more predominantly Asian in that area/s......which leads to something I mentioned earlier regarding segregation and the problems of integration when mass immigration happens over the short term...something that Labours policies regarding immigration encouraged and has led to this lack of social cohesion in certain areas.

However the area I refer to is Audley which is literally just up the road, Blackburn rd to be exact, and yes you are completely right regarding segregation and integration. As I keep mentioning a lot of what goes on is un-reported and consequently un-documented, you would need to live here to see it, or speak to a police friend of mine who spends a lot of time "spying" on people who hang around school kids grooming them, to find out what goes on in the real world of micro communities.
For the record I don't disagree with what you say, I just feel that a lot of people in this country and certainly on these forums are blinkered through location.

Castiel · 10 Dec 2011 at 19:06

Von Smallhausen said:
An ex marine should ooze stealth in that department.

I am rather well versed in the technique, especially the 'getting hammered' part...if I do say so myself.....

Castiel · 10 Dec 2011 at 19:12

mollymoo said:
For the record I don't disagree with what you say, I just feel that a lot of people in this country and certainly on these forums are blinkered through location.

You'll get no arguement from me there.....I live in a community that is 97% white, but I am under no illusions (having lived in some of them, and others abroad with deeper issues) that other communities have significant issues with social cohesion. I simply do not ascrie to the sweeping generalisations being made by some or the suggestion that what is happening in some of these communities is the norm in Britain generally.

compboyo · 10 Dec 2011 at 19:15

i dotn use public transport...hate it. I rather walk...

Ive walked 1-2hrs back and forth other side of town to work rather than use bus lol

mollymoo · 10 Dec 2011 at 19:18

Castiel said:
You'll get no arguement from me there.....I live in a community that is 97% white, but I am under no illusions (having lived in some of them, and others abroad with deeper issues) that other communities have significant issues with social cohesion. I simply do not ascrie to the sweeping generalisations being made by some or the suggestion that what is happening in some of these communities is the norm in Britain generally.

Then we agree at least

I've lived other places, I moved here for whatever reason and got smacked in the face by racism from both sides. The only good idea the LibDems had was trying to spread the influx of e/immigrants across the whole of the country, a good idea methinks.