6 Series Grand Coupe

[mjt]

The Audi A7 and CLS are both lush, and this seems to be just as nice.

 

[Skilid]

I think it's a fantastic looking thing. Prefer it to the Merc and Audi too.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Other than the fact that they don't look anywhere near as good as a coupe and are less practical (only seat 4 in some cases)

The Coupes these cars share a model range with don't seat any more people...

 

[Django x2]

Going off previous BMW models, surely the 640i would actually be the 635i due to it being a twin turbo 3L straight-six?

Except it's a single turbo 6 cylinder in the 640i. 650i is a V8 twin turbo (only 2dr coupe and convertible at present).

The model designations are getting ever further from the simpler days.

 

[[TW]Fox]

The model designations are getting ever further from the simpler days.

Simpler days like when? 1996 when a 323i had a 2.5 litre engine? Maybe back further to the mid 80's where you could buy a 325e with a 2.7 litre engine? What about the 1982 316 with... a 1.8?

Or perhaps, in reality, BMW have had model names dissassociated with engine capacity for decades and decades?

 

[Django x2]

I would say, the majority has always been accurate:

120
130
320
323
328
330
520
530
550
730
750

etc, etc

 

[alexthecheese]

Simpler days like when? 1996 when a 323i had a 2.5 litre engine? Maybe back further to the mid 80's where you could buy a 325e with a 2.7 litre engine? What about the 1982 316 with... a 1.8?

Or perhaps, in reality, BMW have had model names dissassociated with engine capacity for decades and decades?

Have they not given the same engines two different names now though? They havent done that before though, surely?

 

[rG-tom]

I would say, the majority has always been accurate:

320

etc, etc

you mean like the e46 320i that had a 2.2l 6 cylinder?

 

[rG-tom]

Have they not given the same engines two different names now though? They havent done that before though, surely?

different states of tune though

 

[[TW]Fox]

I would say, the majority has always been accurate:


320

A 2.2 in the E46?

323

A 2.5 in the E36?

328

A 3.0 in the E90?

550

There has NEVER been a 550 with a 5 litre engine. Never. It was a 4.8 V8.

750

Which 750?

The 5.4 litre V12 in the E38? The 4.8 litre V8 in the E65?

etc, etc

Absolutely

 

[alexthecheese]

And this is why the diesel works so well. It's as noiseless as it needs to be, nicely quick without ever feeling like it's trying too hard, and although the claimed mpg is predictably optimistic, we happily got over 40mpg, which means 600 miles between fill-ups. It's a typically lovely engine to use, although we do wish that BMW would desist from playing fast-and-loose with the badging - it's the exact same unit as in the 535d.

Top Gear getting it wrong?

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/cars/bmw-6-series-640d-m-sport-coupe-review-50005796/

 

[[TW]Fox]

Have they not given the same engines two different names now though? They havent done that before though, surely?

Yes, in the 740d.

 

[Draeger]

Looks rather nice, that. Would like to see one in the flesh before making my mind up though.

 

[Django x2]

A 2.2 in the E46?

Diesel....

 

[Django x2]

Top Gear getting it wrong?

http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/cars/bmw-6-series-640d-m-sport-coupe-review-50005796/

No, it's the same unit (although not sure if the engine code is the same, but it is a 6cyl twin turbo, 2993cc)

 

[[TW]Fox]

Diesel....

And the 550?

 

[Django x2]

rounded up

 

[Liquidfox]

Except it's a single turbo 6 cylinder in the 640i. 650i is a V8 twin turbo (only 2dr coupe and convertible at present).

The model designations are getting ever further from the simpler days.

Evo seems to think that it's a Twin Turbo in the 640i. The 650i is the current M5 engine, detuned.

EDIT: Whoops, forgot I had this thread open for a couple of hours without refreshing...

 

[[TW]Fox]

Evo seems to think that it's a Twin Turbo in the 640i. The 650i is the current M5 engine, detuned.

Evo is wrong - it's a Twinpower single Turbo engine.