Drain cover, oil, wall! I think its a write off!!

Having only just gotten a RWD car with 230bhp, I still can't see how you ended up backwards at that speed through a wall/tree. I've ridden a 120bhp motorbike over slippery drain covers in the rain on corners and haven't ended up backwards either.

I'm sorry for the car, but that's why we pay insurance.
 
^ One that's almost 2 tonnes and protected by a lot of electronics. There's a difference between a BMW coupé and a sports car. Massive difference.

Go drive an S2000 over some drain covers, one without TC, and on the OEM 15's, then post again.

Forum race car driver post, typical of what I'm trying to say above.
 
MilanoChris said:
After driving an S2000 in the wet over slippy drain covers at the speed limit I can completely see how the OP would have smashed his up without intending to. But saying that I don't know how tail happy the OP's car is.
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Porsche PSM makes it fairly compliant. I had a mini tail happy moment yesterday in my Cayman doing an aggressive overtake after I'd been stuck behind a procession of cars doing 30mph in a 50mph for about 5 miles. Back stepped out noticeably. Not ashamed to say I lifted off instead of accelerating like I should've done, which made it worse. Wasn't quite a fishtail but felt like it was on the way there... guess the electronics gubbins saved me :D Dunno if the OP switched PSM off or just ran out of talent but I can't imagine losing my Cayman (which is ostensibly very similar to the Boxster) on a drain cover... :confused:

In the S2000 the tail would drift out even on mini roundabouts in a wet, at least with the standard Bridgestones. Was eminently controllable though. lovely. :)
 
I could have quite easily crucified Kate's 200SX at extremely pedestrian speeds if I didn't drive with my wits more about me than the average joe.
Also, don't forget that not everyone reacts the same when a car breaks away unexpectedly. I've been in the car with people where they've got a bit of a twitch on and made a massive pig's ear of things when if they'd just relaxed their grip on the wheel and taken their feet of the pedals everything would have been fine.

My mum for example would have put it into a hedge at the first sign of a wet road.

It's difficult, the whole "RWD in low grip situations" debate. If you advise caution you are scaremongering and get scorned by scores of people high on internet bravado.
 
^^ Pft don't be silly, I regularly drift round Watford's roundabouts in the wet in 400bhp Skykines so anyone can do it. :p

If it's snowing then it's even better.
 
I set off from basketball the other night, saw the carpark looked a little slippy so locked it into 2nd and dsc off, planning to get slightly sideways, literally 5mph, bit o' right foot. Actually span it 360 lol :D (Completely empty car park) Shocked me slightly as it didnt look THAT slippy! i wouldve still ended up very sideways even if i wasn't trying to mess around.
 
Gutted about the car and accident Vince.

For what it's worth though I would have a current gen Boxster S, Cayman S etc... over a 996 991, unless for some reason you had to have a 911.

£20k on a 996 when 997's start at £25k?
 
MilanoChris said:
Guy on forum has accident, posts pictures, forum race car drivers post their thoughts on the incident. Standard.
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lol, threads like this never do end well.

Unlucky OP similar thing happened to me in summer in the supra, although a bit faster and in the pouring rain.

As they say, **** happens!
 
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Durzel said:
Porsche PSM makes it fairly compliant. I had a mini tail happy moment yesterday in my Cayman doing an aggressive overtake after I'd been stuck behind a procession of cars doing 30mph in a 50mph for about 5 miles. Back stepped out noticeably. Not ashamed to say I lifted off instead of accelerating like I should've done, which made it worse. Wasn't quite a fishtail but felt like it was on the way there... guess the electronics gubbins saved me :D Dunno if the OP switched PSM off or just ran out of talent but I can't imagine losing my Cayman (which is ostensibly very similar to the Boxster) on a drain cover... :confused:

In the S2000 the tail would drift out even on mini roundabouts in a wet, at least with the standard Bridgestones. Was eminently controllable though. lovely. :)
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These mid-engined cars, they can be twitchy. This is why rear engined is the best, no such issues with drain covers. ;)
 
[TW]Fox;20826995 said:
None of those are C4S's?

You can't say 'dont buy car X because you can buy a lower model of the newer gen for thousands of pounds more'.
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True but I'd rather a 997 C2 poverty spec rather than a decent spec'd 996 C2S or C4S.

Having driven many 996's the only one I'd consider would be a 996 X50 Turbo, however I still went with a less powerful 997 in the end simply because the 997's driving dynamics and complete package is so much better. :)
 
[TW]Fox;20826995 said:
None of those are C4S's?

You can't say 'dont buy car X because you can buy a lower model of the newer gen for thousands of pounds more'.
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I know, I was saying that last car I posted was a C4S but I failed to notice its as a 996 listed under the 997 section.

997 C4S's seem to start at 28k
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-55-P...5297977?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item336f93eeb9


Regarding your second comment, he posted a bunch of cars at around 20k so the cars I found are not that much more. I know given a choice I would rather spend a little extra now and and get a 997 and probably save a bit on running costs and depreciation in the long run. 997's start at 22k and 26k will get you a nice one.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/3/postcode/cr81dd/radius/1501?logcode=p


looks a bit cheap
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/3/postcode/cr81dd/radius/1501?logcode=p

bit high milage non s
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif.../page/8/postcode/cr81dd/radius/1501?logcode=p
 
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In your world is 25%+ on top of £20k a small number to just magic up out of the blue?
 
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