You can do a better job then?
Question for the Mods and closing threads
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You can do a better job then?
But if you've made the decision to close a thread you have the time to reply & close, there is no 'we dont have the time' you are there closing a thread to which you've read or are reading because you've now just made the decision to close, a reply and 'THIS HAS RUN ITS COURSE BECAUSE....' is hardly time consuming.
eh? It's not about who can do a better job its about making the dons give a reason why, what is the issue?Why are you all so touchy on the subject it doesn't make sense? None of you give a clear & valid reason, so that makes us silly to even ask and make the point?
Sigh.
Are you being dense on purpose?
How much quicker is it to click 'close' than to click 'close' and then have to type out a reason for it, making sure to put it in terms thart you unwashed will understand and won't cause any further complaints?
In addition, if it is an obvious reason (spam rubbish or just arguing) then we don't need to give a reason. Most threads can have some common sense applied to reason out why they were closed.
So, lets check this. I am both dense, and 'unwashed.' Can you not see how you sound? Why are you trying to insult me for asking a genuine question when your answer isn't really a valid answer but an excuse. I know I'm not going to get you to change your mind but give me a break? What time are you missing to quickly put a reply, you've got time to insult me haven't you?
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OK, direct question, a few months back (may of been longer) it was announced that a short note would be placed on closed threads explaining why they were shut, what happened?
You don't want to give a reason as to why every thread is closed that's cool, it can be annoying but that's up to you, but the issue I have is saying one thing and doing another, it's confusing for the forum members, you can't blame people for being a little perturbed when you guys said you was going to do exactly what the original poster suggested.
You don't want to do that then fine, but why suggest it in the first place then, at least give a reason as to why that particular policy wasn't followed through, for example,
"We recently tested a new policy were by we try are best to give a reason as to why a thread is closed but we have found that this particular policy was impractical and doesn't serve to help the Dons effectively moderate the forums, we will endeavour to give explanations as to why threads are closed when applicable but a majority of time when a thread is closed the reasons are obvious.
Thank You"
I just think sometimes a bit of clearer, non-conflicting information would go a long way.
You don't want to give a reason as to why every thread is closed that's cool, it can be annoying but that's up to you, but the issue I have is saying one thing and doing another, it's confusing for the forum members, you can't blame people for being a little perturbed when you guys said you was going to do exactly what the original poster suggested.
You don't want to do that then fine, but why suggest it in the first place then, at least give a reason as to why that particular policy wasn't followed through, for example,
"We recently tested a new policy were by we try are best to give a reason as to why a thread is closed but we have found that this particular policy was impractical and doesn't serve to help the Dons effectively moderate the forums, we will endeavour to give explanations as to why threads are closed when applicable but a majority of time when a thread is closed the reasons are obvious.
Thank You"
I just think sometimes a bit of clearer, non-conflicting information would go a long way.
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Wasn't that about soft-deleted threads?
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If you can't spend another 15 seconds (being generous) typing out a response i struggle to think what situation you might be on the forums in anyway.
I'm not pushed for time right now. What if I get a mail when I'm in the middle of something saying a thread needs closing - as happens when someone reports something in a thread I'm a mod for - should I just ignore it? What if I can spend a couple of clicks to close it and carry on with what I was doing? I don't have time in this example to respond to the thread, but can head off possible problems.
It's a pretty simple statement. Sometimes we don't have time to respond to a thread we have closed. That you keep asking the same questions is the reason behind me asking if you're being dense on purpose. Obviously, if I closed a thread, I could spend time responding to it right now. That isn't always the case.
I'm not trying to insult you, so if I did insult you, I apologise.
The unwashed was me making light of the situation and differentiating between the mod team and the underclass.
Can you just clarify what happens when you close a thread? Is it just a button? Is there a comments box?
Surely it take not very long to type one sentence? I appreciated most MOD's are volunteers, however it is annoying when someone just closes a thread, or just deletes a post and says nothing about it. Naturally sometimes something might need to be closed but there is no time to comment, however a mention later would be appreciated.
Yet if you close a thread (MOD's I mean, not just you), surely you should be commenting later on as to why it was closed? Just for clarification
It's a list of options in a drop-down and a button to click.
You only get a comment field when you delete a thread, and I don't think non-mods can see them.
Yet if you close a thread (MOD's I mean, not just you), surely you should be commenting later on as to why it was closed? Just for clarification
I don't see why. If someone had a burning desire to find out why they can speak to us directly - we're only people. I do agree with leaving a note if it is needed and I have time, but it's only worth doing at the time, otherwise you're just bumping a thread you've already closed.
So you'd rather annoy someone and let them create multiple 'why was my thread deleted' threads just because you didn't want to post in a thread you closed telling the OP why?
You could arguably use something like the infraction system of telling OP's why a thread was closed
You could arguably use something like the infraction system of telling OP's why a thread was closed
You can also double click the thread icon in the list of threads
The deleted reason now shows for all members, so be careful what you put
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Non mods can see deleted comments!
You can close a thread by double clicking
<- that icon.
So it's very quick to close - sometimes when you're responding to an RTM you haven't got time (if you're on your phone for example) to compose a full reason.
Some threads are painfully obvious as to why they are closed. Just like deleted posts, after a lot of moaning, deleted comments have now been enabled so you can see the rationale behind it.
Ultimately, I'm sure I can speak on behalf of the whole mod team when I say the in principle we try to give reasons, but we don't always either have the time, or it's not always deemed necessary (owing to the obvious nature of the thread content) to specify a reason.
You can close a thread by double clicking
So it's very quick to close - sometimes when you're responding to an RTM you haven't got time (if you're on your phone for example) to compose a full reason.
Some threads are painfully obvious as to why they are closed. Just like deleted posts, after a lot of moaning, deleted comments have now been enabled so you can see the rationale behind it.
Ultimately, I'm sure I can speak on behalf of the whole mod team when I say the in principle we try to give reasons, but we don't always either have the time, or it's not always deemed necessary (owing to the obvious nature of the thread content) to specify a reason.
Fair play, I was just wondering how the system worked really.
I can understand sometimes why MOD's wouldn't have time, but at the end of the day, if they don't have time to reply to a deleted thread that they closed / or let the OP know why they deleted the thread, why are they moderating
In all seriousness, the MOD's generally do a good job, deleted posts tend to have reasons now (innapparoriate etc)
I can understand sometimes why MOD's wouldn't have time, but at the end of the day, if they don't have time to reply to a deleted thread that they closed / or let the OP know why they deleted the thread, why are they moderating
In all seriousness, the MOD's generally do a good job, deleted posts tend to have reasons now (innapparoriate etc)
Perhaps it should be deemed necessary even when you think it's obviuse. When mods don't have time to write a comment, update it at a latter date or if another mods sees it, to post in the thread with the reason.
Would stop the threads like this, which we have all the time and have even more threads on why x-was deleted. Even within threads with deleted posts or suspended/banned people you usually get several pages of what happened, why and the like.
Would stop the threads like this, which we have all the time and have even more threads on why x-was deleted. Even within threads with deleted posts or suspended/banned people you usually get several pages of what happened, why and the like.
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Fair play, I was just wondering how the system worked really.
I can understand sometimes why MOD's wouldn't have time, but at the end of the day, if they don't have time to reply to a deleted thread that they closed / or let the OP know why they deleted the thread, why are they moderating
In all seriousness, the MOD's generally do a good job, deleted posts tend to have reasons now (innapparoriate etc)
Because for years it's never been an issue. Albeit, I'm always happy for change if it adds value.
Ultimately though, bear in mind we do this off our own time, and often if something needs moderating the priority is to perform the moderating task. Then life gets in the way, meeting/phone call/work/etc... by the time you get back to it the thread's disappeared off the front page - is it really worth bumping a dead thread?