Back to work after 3 years on the dole

If your depression is significant and you feel it is impacting upon the way you present yourself for job interviews, and your ability to apply yourself to things, then ask to see a Disability Employment Advisor at the job centre - there is likely to be additional support for you above and beyond the 'normal' JSA advice.

As mentioned, voluntary work would be a good way to boost your confidence and help you develop that drive to go out and do something each day...as well as something that can be rewarding, depending upon what sort of activity you choose to do.

Lastly...good luck to you :)
 
[..] Bloke has been on the dole. Getting very depressed and wants to do something about it. [..] The relationship between my and my mrs is at breaking point. [..]There is also the depression. I'm a changed person inside.

You could use proper help. Medical help, not a bunch of randoms on a silly forum.

I don't want to be like them, but the sad truth is, i am. I'm choosing not to work. I'm perfectly healthy but i'm a lazy bum. I'm no better than them because of it.

You're being excessively hard on yourself, which looks to me like a result of your depression. You've been a stay at home parent. That's not a dreadful thing. It's not the same as being a lifelong dole manipulator who spends it on weed and cheap booze.

The thing is, i'm petrified at the thought of going back to work. The whole thought of job interviews, application forms, first day at work trying not to mess anything up is a terrifying thought for me.

Again, a result of the depression. It's magnifying a normal level of unsettlement and concern into terror.

There is also the money problems. I'm living off my overdraft which is limited to £1750. It regularly goes over that limit which costs £22 a time. I get charged £15 per month for the privilege of the overdraft plus another £20 interest, so the fees start mounting pretty quickly, especially when i go over the limit twice which results in £80 some months coming out my bank just in charges. This plus a £1300 balance with a minimum payment of £40pm on my credit card, i just cannot sustain this level of debt for any longer.

You need proper help with that too. I suggest CAB.
 
The impression I get is that at least you've recognised that your in a right state atm and want to do something about it. Best advice here is volunteer work as said earlier, at least that'll get you doing something and at least occupy your mind and give you a sort of basic idea of the work ethic which, in turn, should improve your confidence and attitude to going to interviews, etc. Also, be prepared to do anything that'll give you a wage, even its below the minimum wage level (which it shouldn't be but I reckon some employers will take advantage of the situation). You need to improve your self esteem and get some dignity back for yourself otherwise you're gonna end up like those you talked about getting their giros.
Best of luck in the future mate
 
At this level, I'm pretty sure that the support for your 'depression' (not trying to state that you're not depressed, but just want to be clear that depression is something distinct from general unhappiness) would be to; get a job (tick), do something new (tick), get some exercise (tick?), and so on.

Congrats for progress thus far.
 
Congrats on taking the first steps and looking at whats wrong and what needs to change a lot of people wont face facts or hide behind problems/blame others for there problems. Just focus on what you want and think about what needs to be done/changed to over come what ever is in your way.

One question unless I read it wrong did your misses have a job or did you both stay at home for that 3 year period?
 
Not sure if this would be something you'd be interested in, but perhaps in general people finding it hard to get work could consider some freelance work online? It is something I looked at, just before I got a job.

You could set yourself up as self employed, and then register with freelance sites such as odesk and elance. Here you could find all manner of different jobs, from writing articles for websites (often information is supplied by the person offering the contract), simple data entry, or more complicated tasks such as programming. There are literally thousands of different jobs, at least some of which you may be able to do. You'd have the freedom of working for yourself, in your own time. You'd also maybe be eligible for tax credits.

Initially, at least, you wouldn't be earning loads of money, not until you'd built up some positive feedback anyway. It would also give you something to write on your CV, should you want to build up some work experience.
 
As others have said, whilst looking/applying for jobs also give volunteering a go, sure some of the things on offer will be places looking to take advantage of free labour more than anything else but at the very least it shows you're trying to do something rather than sit around at home. It will also put you out into new situations meeting new people etc which will be good for you and give you recent experience to add to your cv. In the very best case scenario it might even give you a foot in the door should a job come up at the place you're volunteering.

Good luck and don't give up.
 
What kind of 'dole' have you been on the last 3 years? JSA tends to be the likely choice but that would mean that you have been available for full time work for 3 years as well so you would have to have regular interviews about looking for work etc but that would mean you have been purposefully not working all this time and lying to the system.

Or were you on ESA/IB because of depression? Which would mean you wouldn't have to actively seek work but then you have been saying you have been depressed for 3 years.

Kudos to realising you need to sort yourself out and I can understand that returning to work can become terrifying after a long time of being unable to work, but you clearly were for a period at least more than able to work and still chose to keep lying and you must have suspected at some point that you really need to sort yourself out.

I understand I may seem harsher than others in here but just trying to establish the backstory.
 
I still unemployed for 3 years now since 2008 (lost job due to credit crunch as redundant after 15 years in the job)

Still seeking job! It so depressed and frustrated. Claimed JSA for 3 years.
 
I feel for you bud. I finished college last June. Im looking for web design jobs mainly but any IT job would be good eg technician. I have to to go to the job centre every two weeks and barely anything comes up. Im also looking on other job sites and newspapers but barely anything comes up. I do have a part time and I get up to 6hours a week there, lol. Bulldog, that JSA is a load of ***** isn't it. They ow me about £160 - £180 now after one of my wage slips for my part time job didn't get sent off.

EDIT: I will be required to do voluntary work at the start of the new year in order to get my foot in the door
 
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Yeah JSA is crappy pay £67.50 a week, can't bear to live on with all outgoing bills, gas and electricity, water rent and so on! The jobcentre isn't very helpful at all. They are treat me like a kid back to school.
 
Aren't you the bloke suffering domestic abuse from the thread last week?

Is the state of your relationship maybe partly to do with your depression? :)

Yes that was me. We're going through hell sometimes and other times it's nice and quiet. I don't completely blame her like i let on last week and i know i could better myself do more to help the situation. You are definitely onto something though when you say the state of the relationship is partly due to my depression. I wouldn't call it full on suicidal depression because i can see what the near future holds and i find it exciting just thinking about it, but then these worries hit me and the excitement fades away again.

How can you look your wife and son in the eye?
Why have a child at all if you can't support your family.

I should have mentioned that i was in full time work when the baby was conceived. The contract came to an end just as the baby was due. I was also on good money taking home £600-£700 a week some weeks. The baby wasn't planned but we both wanted kids anyway, just not so soon. Life rarely pans out as you expect. I can understand your anger. I expect it and i know even my own family must be thinking the same thing being as every one of them are in work.


One question unless I read it wrong did your misses have a job or did you both stay at home for that 3 year period?
She did some part time hairdressing 3 days a week, but i was at home all the time.

What kind of 'dole' have you been on the last 3 years? JSA tends to be the likely choice but that would mean that you have been available for full time work for 3 years as well so you would have to have regular interviews about looking for work etc but that would mean you have been purposefully not working all this time and lying to the system.

Or were you on ESA/IB because of depression? Which would mean you wouldn't have to actively seek work but then you have been saying you have been depressed for 3 years.

Kudos to realising you need to sort yourself out and I can understand that returning to work can become terrifying after a long time of being unable to work, but you clearly were for a period at least more than able to work and still chose to keep lying and you must have suspected at some point that you really need to sort yourself out.

I understand I may seem harsher than others in here but just trying to establish the backstory.

Yes, i was originally on contribution based JSA, then moved over to Income based JSA. I'll be 100% honest here in that i did absolutely bugger all to apply for any jobs in the whole 3 year period. I did go back to college to get my 17th edition certificate for electrical installation which i paid for off my credit card, and i did go to the CV classes where they show you how to prepare and improve your CV, but i didn't apply for any jobs whatsoever.

When i first started signing on i quite enjoyed it being at home watching my kid grow up. The first noises, the first steps, the first words, i don't regret it one bit by being off work for that period of time. It has only been in the last 6 months or so that's it's really hit hard that i need to sort it all out. I'm by no means proud of what i've done, and i feel like a complete scrounger by doing what i've done. I just appreciate that i can see the errors of my ways and want to do something about it. It's a pitty many more doley's can't feel the same.

Where as i was milking it for all i could get, blagging the job applications, lying on the job search forms and interviews, i've actually come to a time where i will be asking for them to put me on some voluntary work or extra training that some jobs in my field require. I'm bored of being at home. I knew it would come sooner or later, i've been through it before, but never been off work this long before which is why i'm finding it so hard.

Thank you very much gentlemen. It's been an absolute pleasure in reading some of the thoughtful replies. I just need to stop being so self pitying and do some of the things suggested. I've done voluntary work before driving a van around collecting clothes from peoples houses to sell in the charity shops. It was ok, Got me out and about until i needed more money and moved into paid work instead.
 
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Yeah JSA is crappy pay £67.50 a week, can't bear to live on with all outgoing bills, gas and electricity, water rent and so on! The jobcentre isn't very helpful at all. They are treat me like a kid back to school.

Damn right. You try to talk to them and they say "we are only here to sign you need to ring Walsall" in a very slow voice, lol. Im entitled to £53 something and I get £20 taken off because I do £20 worth of work a week as my part time job. So im basically doing voluntary now but im not giving up those hours because I want to atleast work 1 shift a week or else ile get in to that "don't want to work mode" which happens to a lot of people now a days.
 
It pretty pointless to force men and women to retire at 67 years old, while the unemployment is set to rise in 2012! and government only help youth and youngest peoples. Nothing for mid 40's for me! Disgraceful. These days now, all jobs only interest is your job experience, not qualified or cv, or college anymores! How on earth we get no training for experience ?
 
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I still unemployed for 3 years now since 2008 (lost job due to credit crunch as redundant after 15 years in the job)

Still seeking job! It so depressed and frustrated. Claimed JSA for 3 years.

Good luck chap. At least you're not alone now you've found this thread. I first signed on the 20th december 2008. What a depressing christmas. My kid more than made up for it though.

EDIT: I will be required to do voluntary work at the start of the new year in order to get my foot in the door

Now if i had read this last year i would probably be trembling in my boots thinking "oh no, not voluntary work", but now i don't actually mind. Bring it on, that's what i'm thinking

.... or else ile get in to that "don't want to work mode" which happens to a lot of people now a days.

Good for you! That "i don't want to work now, i'm better off on the dole" attitude can be soul destroying over time, especially when you've worked all your life.
 
I was out of work, no money no car no friends no girlfriend and ended up losing all my confidence to the point where i couldn't answer the phone or go out the house and just wanted to die. I used to be very ashamed of myself but can talk openly about it now. I ended up in counselling.

5 years ago i managed to pluck up the confidence to apply for a part time job. I got said job and ended up being bullied by my supervisor, i must have been an easy target. I ended up writing my notice out.

Then i woke up and thought "i dont think so!" I went back to work and didn't take nothing laying down, nearly got sacked at one point for telling the supervisor what i thought of her. I knuckled down and worked by back side off.

I am now the manager of the business, have a car, lots of friends, money, my own flat and a nice girlfriend.

I know how you feel, you need to motivate yourself as there is nothing more satisfying as paying for things with money you have worked for yourself.

Good luck, make this year your year :)
 
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This time last year I had been out of work for 3 years since leaving school. I started a 6 month I.T apprenticeship with a private training company. I knuckled down as much as possible and they ended up taking me on afterwards. 1 year later I have another 4 qualifications paid for by the company and I am teaching. I am on a wage I would never have dreamed of this time last year.

The main thing is focus. Set goals and do anything you physically and mentally can to achieve it. I am not talking about massive goals straight away, just small ones.

Good luck on finding a job and all the best for the future.
 
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