US marines urinated on bodies of taliban fighters

[steve45]

No, it's the part where you realise YOU don't have 6 mates in the forces so don't hear what it is actually like and how brutal it is over there! Ask any squaddie/boot neck/matlo if they think this is wrong and I bet atleast 95% would disagree!

i'm a "squaddie", and i think its wrong, and i think you will find the exact opposite, although, not all will admit it.

i find it neither disgusting not suprising or personally offensive, however i do know its wrong, its unprofessional, its insulting to the afghans, and it goes against all the hard work that is being done out there.

 

[mrk]

Setup?

Soldiers have been filmed doing many terrible things, some have been made to be accountable for their actions in the past.

 

[kylew]

I would have took a dump on them

It's not much of a surprise.

 

[Cosimo]

Setup?

Soldiers have been filmed doing many terrible things, some have been made to be accountable for their actions in the past.

Strange things can happen. It might be an attempt to discredit the US military and put a spanner in the Taliban peace negotiations. We will soon find out.

 

[Xordium]

No, it's the part where you realise YOU don't have 6 mates in the forces so don't hear what it is actually like and how brutal it is over there! Ask any squaddie/boot neck/matlo if they think this is wrong and I bet atleast 95% would disagree!

If anyone under my command had of done such a thing - well their feet would not have touched the ground. Such actions will cause ripples that will cause further loss of life to coalition forces - you only had to look at the reaction that was served up after that muppet Piers Morgan went on a rant to see how these things work.

Court martial - heavy consequences, it's the only way. And the way is should be. This is not the way to win the hearts and minds of a population who are already distrustful.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Setup?

Soldiers have been filmed doing many terrible things,

But not knowing they are being filmed.
If it is genuine then these Marines have got to be really stupid.

However, the most anybody has ever done in this thread is play BF3 or paintball and none of you can ever get inside the mind of what these guys go through every day.

 

[e36Adz]

For a human being to urinate on another human beings dead body, it is not only sinful but vile, disgusting and shameful. Far worse things probably do happen that go unrecorded but this thread is about a particular act shown on a recently surfaced video. If you think that acts like this are in any way ok, there is no hope for you, you are already too far gone.

I wonder sometimes how these videos come to light. It is almost as though certain people need to re-ignite the anger around the Arab world, against American troops in a hope that there will be more attacks, so that they have an excuse to stay longer. When you are in a foreign land attacking and killing people for absolutely no reason, sometimes you need to provoke them and force some sort of reaction so you can continue your crusade.

 

[Sonea Fifer]

I admit I haven't read through this entire thread but I've just watched the video and it says:

Regardless of the circumstances this is a disgusting behaviour, unacceptable for anyone in uniform.

The above I agree with entirely, when you sign up and put on the uniform (regardless of which armed force you're in) you are representing your country.
The video also says:

If this video turns out to be real then such actions would be a violation of the rules of war.

Now the Taliban themselves have committed atrocities such as :

• The public execution in Yakaolang of at least 170 civilians, mainly from humanitarian organisations. "According to Amnesty International, eyewitnesses reported the deliberate killing of dozens of civilians hiding in a mosque.
  
• After the capture of Mazar-i-Sharif in 1998 the Taliban indulged in the "frenzied killing of shop owners, cart pullers, women and children shoppers". Women and girls were raped, and 2,000-5,000 civilians, mainly ethnic Hazaras, were massacred.
  
• The "castration" of the former Afghan president, Najibullah in 1996. The Taliban "dragged his body behind a jeep for several rounds of the palace and then shot him dead".
  
• The public beheading of various military personnel streamed live on the internet.

I've no doubt there many, many others I haven't listed. So someone urinates over a dead body? Well hey - *wake up call* they threw the "rule book of war" out a long time ago - so don't be surprised when other don't follow it either! Someone else mentioned earlier in this thread they'd have defecated over these bodies as well - even that is more than these scum deserve imo. Also, not that it makes any difference but I know there are ex and serving members of the forces posting / viewing here. I've never served myself but I do have two family members who are currently on active duty.

 

[Nitefly]

I don't like the 'they do it worse so we can do it too' mentality. It is disgusting.

On the other hand, it's war. Pretty easy for me to say how disgusting it is when I don't have bullets fired at me every day. But that doesn't make it right, only understandable.

 

[RoboCod]

If you see your mates being blown up by sly road side bombs and insane suicide bombers you'd be more than happy to **** on the remains of the aggressors

 

[MofoKilla]

Theres so many Politicially correct do gooders on this forum all with blinkers on.

These taliban turds do a lot worse than take a **** on american soldiers when they get captured.

pfft

 

[jmc007]

If you see your mates being blown up by sly road side bombs and insane suicide bombers you'd be more than happy to **** on the remains of the aggressors

What the hell good would that do? Just pathetic behaviour.
Pretty sure my Grandad, even though seeing fellow allies losing their lives, would not of taken a dump on dead enemies.
It really is degenerate.

 

[cm1179]

Well hey - *wake up call* they threw the "rule book of war" out a long time ago - so don't be surprised when other don't follow it either!

you do know the dangers of throwing a rule book out, don't you? metaphorically or not, certain rules need to be adhered to or there really is no hope and very little point.

 

[steve45]

certain rules need to be adhered to or there really is no hope and very little point.

there are such rules and 99.9% of the forces do adhere to them, its called law of armed conflict, and the geneva convention.
but unfortunately you get bad eggs in every walk of life.

 

[StriderX]

there are such rules and 99.9% of the forces do adhere to them, its called law of armed conflict, and the geneva convention.
but unfortunately you get bad eggs in every walk of life.

Those few bad eggs can ruin an entire campaign.

If there was an arbitrary number based on liking a nation or hating a nation, the US just lost a lot of points, especially at a time when they are about to cut their forces down?

It may be a war, largely pointless war which we never won, since the Afghan forces are corrupt to the core as well as our puppet player, Karzai turning against us.

If a soldier has no honour or respect for his enemy (Doesn't matter that the enemy doesn't respect or not, we are supposed to be an example of the civilisation we are forcing on these people), then that soldier deserves nothing more than to be forced onto the field with a knife, alone.

 

[jmc007]

Even though I am pretty sure my Grandad did not relieving himself on dead enemies, I do remember stories of swapping heads of dead enemies; still the former seems kind of lower.
Just thought I would mention it.

 

[Angst]

Fire bullets at them = fine.

Fire urine at them = THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

 

[Sonea Fifer]

you do know the dangers of throwing a rule book out, don't you? metaphorically or not, certain rules need to be adhered to or there really is no hope and very little point.

Let's break this down:

There really is "no hope" for us if we follow this so called rules of war bull ****!
There really is "no hope" for the extremists if we say **** the rules we are going to win!

Certain rules really do not need to be adhered to or we will lose this. I'm sure you're not naive enough to think that if we follow a "set of rules" our opponent will do the same and the end result will a lot of blood shed from both sides with one winner and one looser. But hey, it will have been a good fight and the winner will celebrate a triumphant victory safe in the knowledge they strictly followed the rules of war and won fairly! Do you think the winner of a street fight is the one that follows a set of unwritten rules? Or the one that kicks his opponent in the balls, then goes for the eyes and the throat - I know what one I'll be in that situation.

 

[Vonhelmet]

Given that people have been sent to prison for a very long time for failing to abide by the rules, I think they're more weighty than you're giving them credit for.

Besides... Every offence of this kind only galvanises more fighters against the west.