Paying for Petrol

Burnsy2023 said:
Not as far as I am aware. If someone gives you their name, address and phone number, then that's enough. I don't see any power for you to require them to leave their vehicle.
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The only problem there is if youre giving false details, however youd be daft to do thast as youd be traced from your reg number ( assuming its not a false plate ) and your tax disc serial number.
 
MeatLoaf said:
The only problem there is if youre giving false details, however youd be daft to do thast as youd be traced from your reg number ( assuming its not a false plate ) and your tax disc serial number.
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That could be a problem, but you still don't have any power to stop the vehicle moving.
 
I've had numerous times when I have filled up with petrol and only been charged for the goods I bought (paper/chocolate bar) to then have to inform the cashier I also have fuel to pay for.

Never even crossed my mind to be dis-honest.
 
MeatLoaf said:
The only problem there is if youre giving false details, however youd be daft to do thast as youd be traced from your reg number ( assuming its not a false plate ) and your tax disc serial number.
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If you went out to steal petrol, you are just going to drive off, not go in and give false details thereby running the risk of the cashier being able to identify you again as well as being on close up cameras within the shop.


Also, no one within a petrol station can impound a car regardless of what you say. Company guidelines and procedures are not the same as being legally enforceable rules. If someone told me to leave my car, I would simply drive off anyway making sure I leave my details as I am sure that the jobsworth that was insisting that I leave my car would take great pleasure in calling the cops on me shouting about how I have "stolen some fuel"
 
I suppose this kind of thing has increased with the number of Petrol Stations which are now mini-supermarkets. There is nothing worse than just going to buy petrol and having to queue on the forecourt and in the shop because you've got people doing their weekly shop.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
Succinct, but not 100% technically correct.
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I'd be worried if any retailer lost a court case when there is CCTV evidence of someone putting fuel in, going into the shop and not paying. Sure sure, fight the system, blag etc... but it still amounts to dishonesty. If you go to a fuel station to refuel, but don't pay and try to get away with it because you weren't asked, it is frankly ridiculous.
 
Freefaller said:
I'd be worried if any retailer lost a court case when there is CCTV evidence of someone putting fuel in, going into the shop and not paying. Sure sure, fight the system, blag etc... but it still amounts to dishonesty. If you go to a fuel station to refuel, but don't pay and try to get away with it because you weren't asked, it is frankly ridiculous.
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Dishonesty isn't proved by merely not paying. I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to go in think that the petrol is being paid for and for one reason or another doesn't check the amount being paid for on the card. If it's a one off mistake, why criminalise it?
 
I'd be to worried the cashier would have it taken out of there crap wages so would always fess up.
 
I worked in a petrol station for about a year (Safeways) and they never reported a drive off to the police if the person had come into the store purchased some other goods and not been asked by the cashier if they had any fuel. If the cashier failed to ask the amount was always written off and the cashier given a roasting by the manager.

Genuine drive offs were always reported, we had a crazy manager at one point who gave as an earfull for not stopping people who were driving off without paying I was never sure what sort of heroics he expected from us!

So while it may not be the law it is or at least was true in practice.

bledd. said:
Is it true that if you forget your wallet, you can get an IOU and pay it within a week?
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Yes it is true, we used to have a form for you to fill out with your details (Name, address etc) and we would record the details of the car. Most returned within 24hrs those that didn't within a week were reported to the police.
 
I work part time at a fuel station, the training quite clearly states that a casher MUST ask customers if they have had any fuel because if we fail to do so they are allowed to leave without paying for it and it is then considered a gift. This came up in Motors a while back and I provided a transcript of the training.

However, the usual process is that it is called through to the police who then contact the driver and ask them to come and pay for their fuel, this happens so often where I work because of some of the muppets who work there that the police are getting very reluctant to deal with it if the customer has been to a checkout as it is quite obviously a massive waste of police time caused by some retard who cannot ask a simple question.

Ref the 7 days to pay thing if you forget your wallet, it's called an indebtness and it is a legal document that is now used to create a contract that the customer agrees to make payment within seven days or the debt is passed over to a debt collection agency who will then obviously add their own fees and chase for it.

I only work there a couple of shifts a week and it's a weird job, so many numpties both sides of the counter lol :)

Oh, and if you;re going to change your plates, don't use tape to chenge letters/numbers and keep changing them to something different, we'll eventually work out what the real plate is ;)
 
Why risk it? If they find out fuel is missing (which they will) they will just go straight to the database, find out when, check the plates, and you're royally screwed.
 
True - I pulled up into a Tesco Express/Esso store a year or so ago, filled up and then did a little shopping. The till operator did not ask me if I had bought petrol, and I paid for the shopping and left.

After dinner I remembered that I hadn't paid for the petrol so went back to the garage to pay - when I arrived, they said that I could have got away with the petrol because I was not asked if I had bought any / which pump I'd used. I was using a fuel card at the time so paid for the petrol, however I think I would have even if I was paying with my own money.
 
Dano said:
I work part time at a fuel station, the training quite clearly states that a casher MUST ask customers if they have had any fuel because if we fail to do so they are allowed to leave without paying for it and it is then considered a gift. This came up in Motors a while back and I provided a transcript of the training.
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It looks as though my colleague who also worked in a petrol station was correct Dano has basically said exactly what he said..

Although theres no way i'd actually drive off with out paying unless i'd generally forgot i'd bought fuel which is highly unlikely...
 
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Burnsy2023 said:
Dishonesty isn't proved by merely not paying. I don't think it's unreasonable for someone to go in think that the petrol is being paid for and for one reason or another doesn't check the amount being paid for on the card. If it's a one off mistake, why criminalise it?
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Well it is taking goods without paying is it not? Why would you think it's being paid for? You don't go into a supermarket and wait to be asked if you're purchasing anything do you?

Now I'm not saying beat every person to death with a stick that does it, but I don't think it's any excuse frankly. Maybe I'm too honest.
 
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