SOPA is dead

[opethdisciple]

Doesnt do 'bleep' all for us on this side of the pond.

The US may have delayed it, but the UK, is going fiull steam ahead, with the DEA!

 

[dodgem]

This case is about copyright law, not control of the internet or the mass media.

Absolutely.

I wouldn't imagine for a moment that the US government would misuse the act to pull unpalatable information off the internet. It's not like they've ever requested that Google remove search results that they don't like...

 

[RomanNose]

Put off which means delay it until people have forgotten about it.

 

[stigggeh]

Put off which means delay it until people have forgotten about it.

Agreed.

or until they can sling some mud on the pirates and/or hackers to slip it through the back door.

 

[Rameses]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-501465_162-57362990-501465/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/

Common sense prevails if the article is genuine.

tell that to megaupload!

 

[Dist]

SOPA isn't dead, just postponed. They may kill it off fully but right now there is still the option of playing with it a bit then reintroducing it.

My view on the whole thing is that look at megaupload, the US says they made money off of piracy and shut their site down and had them arrested without much trouble, why do they need SOPA and PIPA to give them even more power, power beyond what is reasonable. And not only would SOPA/PIPA give them more power, it allows them to screw with fundamental parts of the internet, potentially effecting stuff well beyond US reach. And if SOPA/PIPA were to be implemented in their current form (never going to happen though), then it wouldn't be long before other countries were 'encouraged' to follow their example and do the same.

 

[Dave M]

The illegal distribution of media and or software is bad, it reduces the work that can be put into it and eventually reduces the chances of the work being done at all. People *do not pay* for things they can get for free, generally.

That said making the media available legally is still not that great. Even in the days of itunes it's often cheaper to buy a DVD or game at asda or amazon than itunes or steam.

That bites me but illegal sources of media are actually slowing the adoption of competitively priced online media downloads. Dodge isn't the wild west any more and nor should downloadable media and games.

 

[JimAroo]

Not dead, shelfed.

It'll be back, just written slightly different.

 

[SuperTronNarwhal]

Look at what the FBi did with Megaupload. They dont even need SOPA or PIPA to take action

 

[hux]

It'll be back, just one rule at a time.

 

[magick]

Yes it will come back in a similar fashion to the EU referendums. They'll just re word it and call it something else and hope no one notices.

 

[ins0mn1ac]

Look at what the FBi did with Megaupload. They dont even need SOPA or PIPA to take action

The dudes at MegaUpload were very guilty of other things though if what I've read is correct.

 

[magick]

The dudes at MegaUpload were very guilty of other things though if what I've read is correct.

Like what?

 

[Aeleys]

if SOPA happens, and it probably will knowing the Americans and how they always get there way, someone will just find a loop hole in the system and sue the living hell out of the government.

unless they go to war with all the people,organizations etc who make up the owners of the internet. again blaming it on terrorists and then having a 10+ year war they can't win until they own all of the internet, just to shut it down? sounds like an idea the Americans would do...

on a serious note - why exactly is SOPA even being pushed through? wouldn't it just cause mass chaos. riots etc.

 

[Twentyone]

Until it's reintroduced with a different name and some other wording

 

[LordSplodge]

The illegal distribution of media and or software is bad, it reduces the work that can be put into it and eventually reduces the chances of the work being done at all. People *do not pay* for things they can get for free, generally.

That said making the media available legally is still not that great. Even in the days of itunes it's often cheaper to buy a DVD or game at asda or amazon than itunes or steam.

That bites me but illegal sources of media are actually slowing the adoption of competitively priced online media downloads. Dodge isn't the wild west any more and nor should downloadable media and games.

Whilst people downloading shows et al for free (and thus commiting copyright infringement) is bad it is not a valid excuse for the slow adoption of new business models taking advantage of the Internet.

The issue is the dinosaur that is the media industry that is addicted to the old way of business and is crying because we no longer want to consume content in a way that they deem fit (and unsurprisingly gives them maximum profit)

It should also be noted that the figures they quote for losses from piracy are vastly inflated

 

[magick]

Whilst people downloading shows et al for free (and thus vomiting copyright infringement) is bad it is not a valid excuse for the slow adoption of new business models taking advantage of the Internet.

The issue is the dinosaur that is the media industry that is addicted to the old way of business and is crying because we no longer want to consume content in a way that they deem fit (and unsurprisingly gives them maximum profit)

It should also be noted that the figures they quote for losses from piracy are vastly inflated

There's also an element of the old media losing control over the minds of the people. It scares the hell out of them.

 

[LordSplodge]

There's also an element of the old media losing control over the minds of the people. It scares the hell out of them.

Governments I'd say even more so.

 

[magick]

Governments I'd say even more so.

Yes but the governments, banks and corporate media are a single entity more or less.

 

[Pho]

That bites me but illegal sources of media are actually slowing the adoption of competitively priced online media downloads. Dodge isn't the wild west any more and nor should downloadable media and games.

Someone I know (really, not me) was going to go legal and switch to Netflix when it came over here the other day, and was happy to pay for it because it worked out cheaper than a Newsgroups subscription. Trouble was, it had rubbish content compared to the US version and so he didn't bother.

Personally I think that the only reason they're starting to offer these kinds of services are because of piracy; you have to wonder if there was no piracy would they have just continued to offer disc versions instead rather than super-easy online access.