***** The Official Fifa 12 Thread *****

K1LLSW1TCH said:
I'm not even having an argument with you though, you're creating an argument by saying that I'm disagreeing with all of your points. I already said Busquets is a good player, but for you to call him one of the best in history is quite frankly ****ing ridiculous and makes you look even more of a *** than everyone already thinks you are.
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I said one of the best holding midfielders to be exact, the role is fairly new within football, it is a modern role created by Makelele. Therefore the history of said role doesn't even span several decades.
 
Right, anyone for a quickie against my Mexicans before I go to bed?

edit: that's a no then, laters
 
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Sonny you talk about the importance of players height in FUT and then you say that Maradona should have put two CDMs in CB in real life yet they don't have the height to play that position (I know Mascherano has played in CB at Barcelona but he had Pique next to him and again the style of Barcelona's play does not require much tackling but for Argentina they will be needed to do that).
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
You're mad, he isn't even the best in his frankly uncompetitive league, let alone the best in history.
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Care to provide any evidence or is it all your own opinion?

I can assure you i have no affiliation with Zonal Marking or the makers of said youtube videos.

I take it all of their opinion's are automatically discounted as well?

He is the best at what he does, one touch passing, filling in for defenders, man marking, he does it all, there is no one better than him.

If you think Alonso is better, then why was he so quiet against Barcelona in their last few matches, he needs time on the ball, whereas Busquets doesn't he premeditates his moves before he gets the ball.

Look at the video against Santos, the first time he receives the ball, he looks left before it is even passed to him, he is looking at the left winger who is free. He looks back to the person in possession and then the ball is played to him, immediately he controls the ball and plays the pass to the left winger.

He is quite simply amazing, and what only 23 years old?
 
jesta said:
Sonny you talk about the importance of players height in FUT and then you say that Maradona should have put two CDMs in CB in real life yet they don't have the height to play that position (I know Mascherano has played in CB at Barcelona but he had Pique next to him and again the style of Barcelona's play does not require much tackling but for Argentina they will be needed to do that).
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FUT is based on a game engine, you need to know the engine to know how to play the game. FUT does not equal real life.

I also stated playing Mascherano as CB with Samuel (who is a CB) and playing Zanetti RB (Zanetti is a full back as well as a CDM) with their LB at the time who was the guy who scored an important header for them in the world cup I forget who, but he is a Argy Veteran, his name is eluding me.

So

TBC - Samuel - Mascherano - Zanetti


that would have been a much better line up than Gutierrez and whoever else they had filling in for them.

edit: was Heinze

so:

Cambiasso - Veron

Heinze - Samuel - Mascherano - Zanetti

would have been a better defensive line up than

Mascherano - Veron

Heinze - Samuel - Demechelis - Guttierez

nobody can disagree with that surely?
 
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FUT doesn't equate to real life but there are a lot of teams which focuses on wing play and crossing into a big striker. An Argentinian back four with Heinze, Zanetti, Samuel and Mascherano isn't a great option especially when dealing with corners (Samuel being the tallest at 6ft).
 
jesta said:
FUT doesn't equate to real life but there are a lot of teams which focuses on wing play and crossing into a big striker. An Argentinian back four with Heinze, Zanetti, Samuel and Mascherano isn't a great option especially when dealing with corners (Samuel being the tallest at 6ft).
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Still, they don't exactly have a luxurious amount of defensive talent to choose from, they played Demichelis at CB who is 6 foot with Samuel, Mascherano is 3 inches smaller but a lot better imo. I'm pretty sure Mascherano would have been the best choice over the ones they had to choose from.

Obviously if they had better CB's choose them and play Masch and Cambi in CDM, but they don't have any better CB's, also their GK was pretty average too, but you can't really stick an outfield player in goals like you can in fifa.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
Sonny, please tell me what Busquets offers which Lassana Diarra and Xabi Alonso don't. Thanks. :)
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You clearly have not read any of the long post.

Diarra is just a terrier, he has zero vision when it comes to passing. Diarra is an old school holding midfielder, Busquets is the new school.

One touch passing and vision is Busquets best asset, because he premeditates all of his moves like Chess, he does not react, he simply acts because he has already played the move in his head.

Alonso needs time on the ball, he does not pre meditate his moves, he collects the ball and then scans for options. Busquets has already scanned those options before receiving the ball, he is basically 1 step ahead of Alonso all the time if they were playing the same game.
 
Demichelis would be much better at set pieces and he would have a much better aerial ability than Mascherano. If they wanted to they could have also played Otamendi who is a better CB than Mascherano.
 
jesta said:
Demichelis would be much better at set pieces and he would have a much better aerial ability than Mascherano. If they wanted to they could have also played Otamendi who is a better CB than Mascherano.
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Too young and inexperienced for me personally, for set pieces Heinze and Samuel is enough unless the other team has loads of tall players.

Otamendi is a good shout for their next world cup though.
 
Ibrahimovic is so good... I'm in love :p

His IF must be ludicrous !

Also, Thinking about getting IF Nocerino at CDM 4-2-3-1, Wonder how he'd do, Using Cambiasso/De Rossi/Vidal in a rotation atm.
 
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MikGriff said:
Ibrahimovic is so good... I'm in love :p

His IF must be ludicrous !

Also, Thinking about getting IF Nocerino at CDM 4-2-3-1, Wonder how he'd do, Using Cambiasso/De Rossi/Vidal in a rotation atm.
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Cambiasso and De Rossi are the best imo, then Vidal.

All the IF's in Serie A are CM's or CAM's/CF's, none of them really suit CDM like De Rossi and Cambiasso do.

I had IF Boateng for example and he is wasted playing CDM, too slow for wide CAM, his ideal position is CM or CF or centre CAM.

IF Cards are appealing but your honestly better off going for improvements elsewhere, nobody in Serie A is better than the main 2 you have, Vidal's height can be an issue for winning balls, but there is no point buying an IF to replace your 3rd choice CDM.

IF Gargano is a solid CDM, but he would be 4th choice after Vidal.
 
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