Wouldn't be such an awful thing if his family mysteriously 'vanished' one day.
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Wouldn't be such an awful thing if his family mysteriously 'vanished' one day.
There's nothing wrong with setting the standard high with racism, 8 games is fine as long as it's consistent. Although I don't think Terry should 'just' get 8.
Yeah, you can make an argument for different punishments for tackles and such, but because each one can't be generalised on, you'd need to view and assess them all and come to a decision. There should be a regular panel who look at these.
Yeah, you can make an argument for different punishments for tackles and such, but because each one can't be generalised on, you'd need to view and assess them all and come to a decision. There should be a regular panel who look at these.
I've been assuming according to what the press have said, I've not at a single point told you what you should think of Evra.
Again. It could be damaging, your chair people came out and said your reputation had taken a big hit, now that's worrying, not on the same worry scale as '**** we have no money' but it's pretty bad for a global brand in years to come will companies look at this and this be a black mark.
Wouldn't you think Suarez should get more if he was racist atleast 10 times? I mean Terry was only racist once was he not?
Also completely agree with the second bit, will never happen though as the FA are all a bit special.
Personally?
I'm not sure. A heavy fine and 6 or 8. It's funny because you hear ex professionals talk all the time about relationships with other players on the pitch and it's just a game blah blah, but if there is a difference between a push / shove and a hard tackle and stamping on a players head.
Comparing a ban for a violent incident to a racist one is a bit out there, they're very different charges and as I've said. Racism has no place in football and should be dealt with harshly.
What would you have punished Bolochelli and Suarez (just for arguments sake he was 100% concrete to be saying something racist)
No, I don't. Suarez used racist language. I don't think every single use of the word should have gotten him a ban, a general ban and a big fine was plenty enough. I hope he learns his lesson.
Terry is different as it's a criminal court. He's also the national side captain and it's that national side's FA that are dealing with him.
You've misunderstood me. When you state the reasons why Evra was boo'd you've assumed the thoughts of those that are booing Evra.
You've not told me what I should think (but as above), you've told me what Liverpool fans (which includes me) are thinking.
When did our 'chair people' say this?
Comparing the length of bans for different offenses isn't 'out there'. You determine the punishment dependent on the severity of the crime. If you believe that violence is a more serious crime than racial abuse then you punish that greater. In my opinion Balotelli stamping on Parkers head is far worse than racial abuse and should therefore receive a greater punishment. And racism is no more acceptable in football as it is in society as a whole, just like violence.
As for specific length of bans. With Suarez getting banned for 8 games, Balotelli should be banned for 24 games imo.
If you could provide a link that would be great. I've read nothing of the sort. Tom Werner is our chairman btw.
@ the second bit, I've had a look, I'll look again when I'm less tired. I found the article about one of your sponsors saying they still supported you, but not the article I'd read.
@ the first bit. Amazing. So violence is at least 3 times as worse as racism? or is that just on this incident? Lets say Terry is found guilty in a criminal court, what do you think the FA should do to him?
Regardless the outcome of his criminal hearing, Terry should face an FA investigation and be subject to the same rules and regulations as Suarez. If he's found guilty there, he should be punished along the same lines as Suarez.
And yes, I think that if I walked out on the street and said what Suarez is supposed to have said and if I stamped on someones head, the punishment I'd receive for the latter would be 3 times worse.
The fact that what he said was consistent and didn't change whereas Suarez apparently couldn't decide what he had said and even had the cheek to suggest that he was saying it in a friendly way.
Its bloody stupid to abuse a player that has been the subject of racial abuse regardless of your feelings about it. Suarez was banned on the evidence given during the case but I'm sure that you and the rest of the liverpool supporters have insider knowledge that they are not privy to.
Reading your posts is painful at time Baz. In most people I can see their bias towards their team but you seem borderline unable to be anything but massively biased.
Suarez knew that what he was saying was racist and would be taken as such and took the pee trying to persuade us that "in his own country" its all fine and he was just being friendly. He tried to wriggle out of it every way that he could and managed to drag Liverpool down with him.
Even after he was found guilty Liverpool have supported him and never issued an apology for any of their conduct which again was stupid. As much as you might hate to admit it, Liverpool have brought English football into disrepute.
In what world is violence not significantly worse that racism?
Woah there cowboy. I think you'll find according to Baz they haven't because Liverpool fans don't think they have.
As I've pointed out, the conduct by Liverpool management and fans over this has been appalling. Coupled with the Chelsea and Ferdiand incident it's done their club reputations a massive damage and certainly English football.
So painful that you didn't bother to read my posts it would seem. I've said many times that I thought Suarez was guilty
Sorry if that's just made your entire post a load of crap.
Wow, this really hits a nerve for you doesn't it. I have read plenty of your posts unfortunately and I don't see what difference that makes.
So even though you think that Suarez was guilty, you also think its fine to abuse him in the next game between united and liverpool based on what.....
Are you serious? What part of the verdict was wrong? What part of the verdict could possibly be wrong?
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