this is really irking me

Cosimo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:17

Nevakonaza said:
They make it sound like you have got to be Albert Einstein before they will even consider you.

Not that but you will have to have what it takes to give at least 160% of yourself to the job. There will only be a handful who will fall into that category.

FNGsam · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:20

iamtheoneneo said:
12,000 ouch. I thought the 20+ I had to go through to get to the 6 to interview was hard work

I didn't even have to interview for my position. They just pulled my name out of a hat and I got asked to start a week or so later.

can't complain getting a £32k job with no interview

panthro · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:22

You have to give your life to Aldi in return for 40k.

mrk · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:24

jamief said:
They will pay £40,000 per year.

However you'll probably have to work 90 hours a week, doing shifts, in some god forsaken town somewhere, moving at a days notice.

Exactly. It doesn't matter how much I could be offered, hours as demanding as what this kind of job commands is not my cup of tea and I would not sacrifice my own time to dedicate to such a job regardless of pay.

Plus that and retail working is something I absolutely loathe. People who work in retail end up having really odd personalities when they reach management positions. I wouldn't even share a toilet cubicle next to them.

Cosimo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:34

Moses said:
Life = zero.

Some people are quite happy sitting behind a desk plodding on achieving nothing whilst others are prepared to sacrifice a lot for a higher reward. Horses for courses.

mrk · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:38

The only 'reward' I see with such a role is the money coming in and no time to put it to good use.

I understand some people out there don't have any out of work commitments so don't care how much of their personal time their job eats up. But most people are not like this.

Greebo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:41

jamief said:
They will pay £40,000 per year.

However you'll probably have to work 90 hours a week, doing shifts, in some god forsaken town somewhere, moving at a days notice.

This. Happens frequently. They will have loads of applicants to pick from and will choose the hungriest for the job.

I;m pretty sure it was Aldi a mate of mine went for a few years ago and he said you work on the shopfloor for up to a year across several stores doing every lowly job within the company so you have a full understanding but at the same time you are studying/training so he basically had no social life for a year. Year 2 onwards got better as he then worked as an assistant manager.

Brookert · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:41

I worked in a place over the summer that took up 7 days a week. NEVER again..........

Greebo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:44

In fact, watch this interview with a recent grad on the programme

http://jobs.guardian.co.uk/employer/203282/aldi/

Even she says that it hard planning any free time for friends.

Greebo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:49

And high stress and failure rate.

http://www.independent.co.uk/studen...a-graduate-scheme-is-high-demand-1837045.html

If Aldi take on up to 200 graduates on this programme each year and each graduate is expected to be looking after up to 9 stores after one year and Aldi have only 400 stores, they only need 45 people in total.

Of course there are the 200 they took on the year before as well and the year before.

On that basis I reckon only about 1 in 20 make it past the first year.

Cosimo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:50

mrk said:
The only 'reward' I see with such a role is the money coming in and no time to put it to good use.

I understand some people out there don't have any out of work commitments so don't care how much of their personal time their job eats up. But most people are not like this.

Ambition is a great driver and a few out of work sacrifices don't really matter if you have a goal to achieve. One man’s drive to achieve is another man’s poison. There’s nothing wrong with being a "plodder", it’s the norm. Do your job, maybe watch the clock a little, go home at five and be happy. It's what makes the world go round.

toshj · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:53

A former colleague of mine was on this scheme a couple of years back (I think he was on £36,000 year one which had the potential to go up to £60,000ish after a 3-4 years). He had to be at the store for 5.30-6am and work through to close at 8pm... (frequently) six days a week.

£36,000 a year for 14 hour days and a six day working week? No thanks

King Damager · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:53

Nitefly said:
Bingham McCutchen.

Year 1 - £40k
Year 2 - £45k

Year 3 (Qualification) - £100k

I hate you. Maybe. Did you get lucky enough to get a place there?

At the moment I think I'm looking at:
Year 1/2/3 - £32k (training)
Year 4 - £45k Qualified.

Then I can either stay at company of choice and slowly work up the ladder and have better long term prospects, or jump ship for about £70k but not have the best long term prospects...

Ah well, it'll suffice xD

Judging by the interview above, the interview process sounds fairly standard.

I'm not sure if it still applies, but I know at one point someone said that if you worked at Aldi just on the floor (when they gave you about £12/hr - much better than stuff like tescos etc...), you had to know all the prices of stuff.

kd

jamief · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:54

simulatorman said:
Ambition is a great driver and a few out of work sacrifices don't really matter if you have a goal to achieve. One man’s drive to achieve is another man’s poison. There’s nothing wrong with being a "plodder", it’s the norm. Do your job, maybe watch the clock a little, go home at five and be happy. It's what makes the world go round.

There are plenty of jobs where you can make an excellent living (considerably more than the £60k a year mentioned) and still go home at 5pm!

Sider · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:55

12,000 for 200 grads? that’s not too bad tbh. the application rate is so high prob due to the fact every business orientated graduate will apply

Greebo · 2 Feb 2012 at 16:58

Sider said:
12,000 for 200 grads? that’s not too bad tbh. the application rate is so high prob due to the fact every business orientated graduate will apply

Except that 199 will have either left or being dismissed in the first year so really it probably is 12,000 for one job.

Cosimo · 2 Feb 2012 at 17:00

jamief said:
There are plenty of jobs where you can make an excellent living (considerably more than the £60k a year mentioned) and still go home at 5pm!

Yes there are but you still have to put some effort into into landing them.

ScoTTyBEEE · 2 Feb 2012 at 17:26

simulatorman said:
Some people are quite happy sitting behind a desk plodding on achieving nothing whilst others are prepared to sacrifice a lot for a higher reward. Horses for courses.

Until they're dying and realise it wasn't worth it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/feb/01/top-five-regrets-of-the-dying

2. I wish I hadn't worked so hard.

"This came from every male patient that I nursed. They missed their children's youth and their partner's companionship. Women also spoke of this regret, but as most were from an older generation, many of the female patients had not been breadwinners. All of the men I nursed deeply regretted spending so much of their lives on the treadmill of a work existence."

Jay794 · 2 Feb 2012 at 17:31

I was doing Marketing at uni, in a class of 100, I doubt that more than 10 of them are earning more than 15k, I know for sure one of them is working in McDonalds, another is working at a rent a car place, in fact, none of the ones I know are even working in marketing!

dowie · 2 Feb 2012 at 17:31

mcast said:
I'm arguing with my friend about this job.

I said nobody without the relevant experience could possibly get it and there's no way they'd pay a newbie graduate £40k.

I know certain graduate professions in London can pay £30k eg law/finance, but £40k in retail, outside London, day one??

erm the advert quite clearly states that they will pay a newbie grad 40k....