Door Lock Insert

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:11

Hi all,

Does anyone know if you can get a door lock insert for a multipoint (UPVC) door?

The only ones I can find are for mortice locks, as pictured below.

I can't change the lock before anyone suggests it. I am assuming that no such thing exists as it would need to be thin enough to slide past the cut out for the key.

Thanks!

Mark A · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:22

This is a mortice lock, usually used in timber doors.

The ones pictured in the op are Euro Profile cylinder locks and are usually used in PVC, Alu and composite doors.

http://www.practicaldiy.com/carpent...eplacement/euro-lock-cylinder-replacement.php

This explains how to remove and measure up for a replacement.

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:31

Thanks Mark.

I cannot replace the lock. What I'm trying to do is prevent a key from being inserted into the lock from the outside. The door is a UPVC model with euro cylinder lock.

EDIT: The picture in the OP is the wrong one. What I was trying to find is a "keyhole blocker" as pictured below, but for a Euro cylinder lock.

The_blue · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:38

superglue.

Get a blank. Cover in glue, insert and snap off flat.

Otherwise squeeze glue directly into lock.

Mark A · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:45

Ahh right, I'm not sure actually, I have never come across anything like that.

If you have a key in the lock on the inside, this usually stops a key from being used from the outside. A bit of a ghetto solution but it should work.

You could use a stub spindle to stop the exterior handle from moving if thats any help.

http://www.handlestore.com/products/Stub-Spindle/NA/

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:49

I thought about leaving a key in the lock from the inside, but I'm going away for the weekend and there is a chance that someone could use the envelope slot to get the key.

Stub spindle is a possibility, thanks! I really don't want to modify the door if I can help it. Rented properties, you understand

Mark A · 5 Feb 2012 at 17:56

You could just remove the spindle completely, if you have access through another door of course. Its only 2 screws and takes less than a minute.

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:02

Mark A said:
You could just remove the spindle completely, if you have access through another door of course. Its only 2 screws and takes less than a minute.

This is GD so I guess I have to be a little rude. I could use the back door

Chabsy · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:04

thewanted said:
I thought about leaving a key in the lock from the inside, but I'm going away for the weekend and there is a chance that someone could use the envelope slot to get the key.

Stub spindle is a possibility, thanks! I really don't want to modify the door if I can help it. Rented properties, you understand

It dont have to be "the" key just one that fits in the hole, a blank will be a couple of quid for a key cutters

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:08

Chabsy said:
It dont have to be "the" key just one that fits in the hole, a blank will be a couple of quid for a key cutters

Not to sound retarded or anything, but how would it fit in the lock if it wasn't cut out for it?

Steve2000 · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:20

Usually a lot of other keys will fit locks like that, even if it's not cut out for it. It just won't actually turn.

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:22

Thanks very much guys. Will be paying the locksmith in town a visit tomorrow

tom_e · 5 Feb 2012 at 18:29

I'd just pop the spindle out, 30sec job to take the handle off pull it out and reattach the handle.

G.s Glazing · 5 Feb 2012 at 19:09

What is the point, what are your trying achieve?

If it's about security then i wouldn't bother, your cylinder and be snapped and removed in 30s, your panel in your door can be cut with ease and glass broken.

So, if it is about security i'd be improving in other areas,

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 19:15

For reasons I don't wish to get into, I am going away for the weekend in March and don't want someone to use their key to get into my house.

Getting the key back from them isn't an option at the moment.

G.s Glazing · 5 Feb 2012 at 19:22

thewanted said:
For reasons I don't wish to get into, I am going away for the weekend in March and don't want someone to use their key to get into my house.

Getting the key back from them isn't an option at the moment.

Why not just change the lock, i know you said its not an option but it's the only real way to do what you need.
By jamming the lock you will have to replace and lock jammers cost more than clyinders and are harder to find.

Euro cylinder £6.00
One screw and a slight turn of the key is all that is needed to remover, should take 1 minute and your problem is solved.

Re-install old cylinder when the time comes.

danza · 5 Feb 2012 at 19:32

Not upset this bloke have you?

The_blue · 5 Feb 2012 at 20:33

thewanted said:
I thought about leaving a key in the lock from the inside, but I'm going away for the weekend and there is a chance that someone could use the envelope slot to get the key.

Stub spindle is a possibility, thanks! I really don't want to modify the door if I can help it. Rented properties, you understand

Why has no one picked up on this

Shame to you all!

The_blue · 5 Feb 2012 at 20:34

thewanted said:
For reasons I don't wish to get into, I am going away for the weekend in March and don't want someone to use their key to get into my house.

Getting the key back from them isn't an option at the moment.

Have you got 2 doors? Can you leave the key in one and use the back?

thewanted · 5 Feb 2012 at 21:06

The_blue said:
Have you got 2 doors? Can you leave the key in one and use the back?

Yeah, as suggested earlier by someone I'm going to try to get a blank key to leave on the inside of the front door, and then use the back door to leave/enter.