Lost in translation.

And you're qualified to decide what a 'non-essential' service is then, are you?

Are you? It's a discussion with opinions, I'm sure the qualified people would discuss some place other than a computer forum, that said, I would consider 23.3 million pounds worth of trained medical staff essential to running a NHS more so than translators, something I consider non-essential albeit required in some cases.
 
Are you? It's a discussion with opinions, I'm sure the qualified people would discuss some place other than a computer forum, that said, I would consider 23.3 million pounds worth of trained medical staff essential to running a NHS more so than translators, something I consider non-essential albeit required in some cases.

I'm sure they have. And i'm sure they've already made the decision. And that's what we're talking about.
 
Problem?

You expect the doctors to speak English when you go abroad...

Not at all, this has been commented on earlier, I would be happy to have it as part of my travel insurance, not burden a countries health service. If I'm to be completely honest I wouldn't go anywhere that I didn't have a basic enough understanding of the language enough for me to need a translator. I think people being a bit more responsible for their actions, actually preparing themselves for eventualities isn't such a bad thing, rather than just expect the rest of the planet to sort their problems out for them. Possibly a remedy would be a global health service, you would be entitled wherever you land.
 
Yet it still stands, you just claimed that in your opinion it's not an issue, that doesn't mean your opinion is correct and therefore nullifies my comment.

Your opinion is that "it is an issue", you've yet to qualify that in any way. I gave you a reason for it not being an issue by showing you how small the sum is relative to the budget. I think we are all waiting for something from you regarding WHY it might be an issue that the 400+ hospitals in the UK might want to employ translators for its patients who may not speak fluent English beyond the fact that you think it might be.
 
holiday makers? would you expect to be outcast if you had an accident abroad in a country where you dont speak the language?

Like it is everywhere else in the world.

Why should we be any different and waste £20 odd mill on translation, oh wait, PC! :rolleyes:
 
It's an issue because it costs money that could be better spent. so forth and so on. I choose to live an unhealthy life style and I pay extra to the NHS for it, apparently the NHS have a net gain from the extra tax I pay into their system. If people moving or travelling to a foreign country where they had no means of communicating with hospital staff should they become sick, injured or whatever, shouldn't they think "aaah that could be a problem what could I possibly do to remedy that?" or should they think "meh they'll sort it out for me not my problem". I tend to think people should be a bit more responsible for the situations they get themselves into, therefore I believe it to be an issue. I would like to see 23.3 million spent on maybe reopening the baby wards at my local hospital, maybe having more than 2 midwives for 36 mothers and babies, but that's just me.

Edit: Forgot to quote post #46 which is what this aimed at.... sorry
 
Like it is everywhere else in the world.

Why should we be any different and waste £20 odd mill on translation, oh wait, PC! :rolleyes:

Have you ever been in hospital in a non English speaking country?

I have, being in a hospital generally distressing, not being able to speak to anyone who knows what is wrong with you is doubly so, the simple comfort of having someone who can tell you what is going on is a blessing and well worth the money it costs to have them there.

If people moving or travelling to a foreign country where they had no means of communicating with hospital staff should they become sick, injured or whatever, shouldn't they think "aaah that could be a problem what could I possibly do to remedy that?" or should they think "meh they'll sort it out for me not my problem". I tend to think people should be a bit more responsible for the situations they get themselves into, therefore I believe it to be an issue.

Ah I see, so your entire argument is at its route, "They are in England so they should speak English".

Glad we got that out of the way, I can ignore you now.
 
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Have you ever been in hospital in a non English speaking country?

I have, being in a hospital generally distressing, not being able to speak to anyone who knows what is wrong with you is doubly so, the simple comfort of having someone who can tell you what is going on is a blessing and well worth the money it costs to have them there.

I have been in a hospital over in Greece, I agree its not great, I don't understand why we need to waste money when no one else bothers.

To be honest though its probably a fail over reaction :p
 
Ah I see, so your entire argument is at its route, "They are in England so they should speak English".

Glad we got that out of the way, I can ignore you now.

Hang on, I'm just curious, what's wrong with expecting somebody who lives in a country to learn the language of that country? What could be unreasonable about that?
 
Not at all, this has been commented on earlier, I would be happy to have it as part of my travel insurance, not burden a countries health service. If I'm to be completely honest I wouldn't go anywhere that I didn't have a basic enough understanding of the language enough for me to need a translator. I think people being a bit more responsible for their actions, actually preparing themselves for eventualities isn't such a bad thing, rather than just expect the rest of the planet to sort their problems out for them. Possibly a remedy would be a global health service, you would be entitled wherever you land.

How would insurance help you if you're dying? :p

You can't learn languages overnight :)

People who live here permanently should have to learn english, but for tourists, there's no point learning a language for a few weeks :)
 
Hang on, I'm just curious, what's wrong with expecting somebody who lives in a country to learn the language of that country? What could be unreasonable about that?

Apparently it's racist and frowned upon by the high and mighty's in this forum.
 
Ah I see, so your entire argument is at its route, "They are in England so they should speak English".

Glad we got that out of the way, I can ignore you now.

You've missed the point entirely and you aren't worth the time. I actually thought you were intelligent enough to have a debate with but hey ho.
 
How would insurance help you if you're dying? :p

You can't learn languages overnight :)

People who live here permanently should have to learn english, but for tourists, there's no point learning a language for a few weeks :)

A basic understanding of the language is not difficult to learn.
 
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