If I didn't need to work I wouldn't.
I would probably make valuable use of my time by volunteering though, unless of course you are one of those very few people who actually like their job...
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If I didn't need to work I wouldn't.
I would probably make valuable use of my time by volunteering though, unless of course you are one of those very few people who actually like their job...
Surely it depends on how comfortably you could live though. I wouldn't want to be shacked up with the absolute bare minimum that I need to survive instead of working and having luxuries...
Obviously if you win the lottery then it doesn't matter but that is a rather extreme scenario.
You can start to claim rent for rent you haven't been paying if the owner of the property decides to start charging you rent. Come on, calm down, I suggest you check facts.
Where was I suggesting he scam the system? I did say massage. That's more in reference to claiming when he previously haded been charged rent. I've check and yes you can if the owner decided to start charging. Of course the proper check and balances would have to be done. All the extra landlord insurance etc is covered by the rent. So what is your point, my advice is sound. He won't actually be renting as he Is on JSA so he can claim housing benefit. If the landlord is kind enough to let him stay until the benefit is processed he will get it backdated.
And my point still is, As he is on JSA he is entitled to housing benefit even if he is living in a house provided by his dad. So with an tenantsy agreement in place his dad would receive rent at the local market rate. Not from his son but from the local housing office. Therefore helping with any mortgage or provide an income for being a nice dad. Then when he gets a job the JSA and housing benefit stops and it's upto his dad if he wants to tear up the agreement or start to charge private rent.
It is perfectly legal and he is entitled to do it. Lots of people do my neighbour included. She lives in her mums house, bought out right her mother let's it back to her unemployed daughter with the DSS paying the rent.
I suggests a ladder for your high horse. No matter how wrong you feel it is don't blame the players blame the game.
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You'd need to have a lot of money in the bank to have the ability to not work and have the lifestyle that me and the gf have with both of us working. Holidays, cars, clothes, all the man crap/gadgets that I buy, all the girly crap that she buys, restaurants, takeaways, Sky, etc...
It'd take more than just a free house and government benefits to keep me satisfied.
I'm sure a lot of people in here would have the same view as me on that point, so it's not a jealousy thing, it's more of a WTF??? I think most of us that live in the real world understand that the proper household bills should come before Sky and expensive broadband packages. Even if he is being subsidised by his girlfriend, I wouldn't be taking the **** and ordering those sorts of luxuries until after I had found work.
Hard to describe what I think of it, but it sounds comparable to the chavvy people on benefits who have a 60" plasma in their living rooms.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to give up work, but I'd need at least £1 million in the bank to do it.
It'd take more than just a free house and government benefits to keep me satisfied.
I'm sure a lot of people in here would have the same view as me on that point, so it's not a jealousy thing, it's more of a WTF??? I think most of us that live in the real world understand that the proper household bills should come before Sky and expensive broadband packages. Even if he is being subsidised by his girlfriend, I wouldn't be taking the **** and ordering those sorts of luxuries until after I had found work.
Hard to describe what I think of it, but it sounds comparable to the chavvy people on benefits who have a 60" plasma in their living rooms.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to give up work, but I'd need at least £1 million in the bank to do it.
I'm not sure where I read it but if Mr and Mrs avg with 2.4 children won the lottery they would need about 2.65 mil just to keep them in there avg life style living of the interest. May be even more given that for 8hours a day that they would be at work they may be spending money and not earning it.
So what you're basically saying is it's ok to do something morally wrong if you can get away with it?
If the OP were to take your advice, I'd hope he'd get away with it.
For about 10 years, until the DSS figure it out and utterly shaft him by demanding all the money back.
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Surely it depends on how comfortably you could live though. I wouldn't want to be shacked up with the absolute bare minimum that I need to survive instead of working and having luxuries...
Obviously if you win the lottery then it doesn't matter but that is a rather extreme scenario.
Was just going to say that. The argument there isn't so black and white (though I know the majority of OcUK like to view things as such
). If I could just about "get away" with not working, I reckon I still would in order to keep above the baseline.If, however, I was stupendously loaded and working would simply only factor in as some kind of personal activity then... nah, I wouldn't -- and it wouldn't be pertinent to look down on anyone else for doing the same.
Was just going to say that. The argument there isn't so black and white (though I know the majority of OcUK like to view things as such
If, however, I was stupendously loaded and working would simply only factor in as some kind of personal activity then... nah, I wouldn't -- and it wouldn't be pertinent to look down on anyone else for doing the same.
The difference being you would be paying for yourself rather than using taxpayer money.
He has been paying tax and will be again soon enough, it's effectively his money.
By that logic, you could argue that everyone should be entitled to their lifetime's worth of JSA upon retirement
Also, he doesn't give the impression he's looking particularly hard for a job.
There is looking for a job and really looking for a job.
You can sit at home and send your CV to 10 different jobs online and it takes 10 minutes.
Why not pop down the local temp agency and do some temp work in the meantime. I work alongside a temp recruitment agency and they find jobs for all sorts of oddballs with no experience, skills etc. They are eager and willing to do any job unlike many others who sit there waiting for a job to land on their lap
You can sit at home and send your CV to 10 different jobs online and it takes 10 minutes.
Why not pop down the local temp agency and do some temp work in the meantime. I work alongside a temp recruitment agency and they find jobs for all sorts of oddballs with no experience, skills etc. They are eager and willing to do any job unlike many others who sit there waiting for a job to land on their lap
So what you're basically saying is it's ok to do something morally wrong if you can get away with it?
If the OP were to take your advice, I'd hope he'd get away with it.
For about 10 years, until the DSS figure it out and utterly shaft him by demanding all the money back.
Thats the problem with all things that fall in a grey area. Is it any more wrong than Barclays avoiding 580mil in corpreration tax. It all falls in to morals and grey area.
Never the less it isnt illegal.
Good luck to the OP in finding a job, atlest you are trying to get back to work asap.
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You're applying for 10 jobs a week? So just over 1 a day. The reason you hate this feeling of uselessness is because you no doubt spend numerous amount of hours online hunting down the most totally awesome BB and Sky HD packages you could, instead of looking for jobs.
I'm sorry, I don't want to sound like I'm kicking you whilst you're down, but applying for just over one job a day isn't going to get you anywhere fast. When my best friend was out of work, and was in a position similar to yours, eager to work desperate to work, I helped him go through various job sites, CV sites, jobcentre pages, newspapers. He would have rather accepted any work for the time being whilst his career got back on track than do nothing and continue to file for JSA. He filed for JSA to start with, however, when he was applying for jobs, he was hitting the 30-40 job applications A DAY!!
Guess how long he was unemployed for?
1 week and 2 days.
Didn't have to claim any JSA in the end, and started bringing enough money in to AFFORD his lifestyle. Not the job of his dreams, and nothing he needed qualifications for, however it allows him to afford the luxuries he wants, as well as fund himself to go back through Uni to qualify for what he wants.
I have no doubt whatsoever you want to work, and you're feeling down, but serious dude, pick the pace up and you'll have more interviews than you can attend. Make sure you CV is on every website available (should take 2 hours of your time) Go through every single job posting on the Jobcentre website and apply to all you have the qualifications for, regardless of how undesirable they are (should take 3-4 hours), go through the paper through any job section they have (1 hour) , maybe talk to your amazing Dad, does he know anyone looking for anybody? Phone every recruitment agency in your area and make an appointment. Every other spare minute you have, print some CVs off, head to the town centre looking dappa, and hand a CV to every last shop there. If so, you'll have a job in no time, you'll feel 1000% better, and your amazing girlfriend will feel much better knowing her BF is working, and able to contribute to the house they now live in.
I get the job market is tough, but every last person I know who has been willing to accept any job going to keep working, has never taken more than 2 weeks to find a job.
Pick up the pace > Get a Job > Enjoy your new house!
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Good on you and yes, awesome dad. Mine is a deadbeat. 