***HD7800 Series Reviews***

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

but i feel like getting a bargain buying a 480

7870 is something i'll like to own.

Wait a few weeks and see how Kepler pans out. If the sub £300 Kepler cards are faster then there should be some downward movement in HD7870 prices.

 

[ALXAndy]

Wait a few weeks and see how Kepler pans out. If the sub £300 Kepler cards are faster then there should be some downward movement in HD7870 prices.

What sub £300 Kepler cards?

 

[Martini1991]

What sub £300 Kepler cards?

Cards that release at sub 300.
Doy.

 

[se_vietboi]

I'd still wait for Kepler to see how things roll out.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What sub £300 Kepler cards?

I assume at least the salvage GK104 part must be under £300??

 

[ishoeyi]

waiting is a pain...

lets hope kepler doesn't dissappoint.

 

[djxput]

waiting is a pain...

lets hope kepler doesn't dissappoint.

I just pulled the trigger on a 6950 last week (price I couldnt errr well sort of didnt pass up) ... and I just upgraded 2 months ago ... and I still want to upgrade once kepler shows us what it has (so I can decide amd or kepler) ...

bleh

 

[Marine-RX179]

I would go one further and say at a £250/£260 price point it almost makes the GTX580 and HD7950 redundant as you have to go up to the 7970 to see a real performance boost over this.

Well, except it would most likely be NOT at £250~£260, but at £280 instead...which means comparing to the £240 GTX570, people are simply paying more for more performance, so bang for bucks wise it's not better in anyway.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Well, except it would most likely be NOT at £250~£260, but at £280 instead...which means comparing to the £240 GTX570, people are simply paying more for more performance, so bang for bucks wise it's not better in anyway.

** No competitor price hinting **

 

[Mr Krugga]

The 7870 is not much faster than the 7850 in most benchmarks, even less so when both are overclocked (that's coming from many of the reviews here).

I'm amazed how many people consider it a good value when it's 40% more expensive than the lower card.

 

[Martini1991]

The HD7870 with an aftermarket cooler is already £269, including postage, on pre-order from one of the biggest retailers in the country. The cheapest GTX570 I can find is the OcUK own brand one for £250.

Is this like the 7950 all over again, with the OEM's going to reviewers and custom cooled cards going to E-tailers?

For all we know that pre-order was a special price, you know like they did for the 6870's?

From some pictures we've seen, it looks like all the 78Xx will be custom, so we really don't have any indication of price yet except we know what two models were

The 7870 is a good card, rendering 2010's GTX570 and even in some cases the GTX580 redundant.

But again, it's priced out of its tier bracket.

The 7870 is not much faster than the 7850 in most benchmarks, even less so when both are overclocked (that's coming from many of the reviews here).

I'm amazed how many people consider it a good value when it's 40% more expensive than the lower card.

While the 7850 is a good card, and can be, if you're pushing at it, be considered value over a 69XX, it's still like 30 quid more expensive than you'd like, if the 7850 and 7870 launched at say, 160 and 200, I think they'd be much better bang for buck cards.

 

[ALXAndy]

Cards that release at sub 300.
Doy.

Have you spoken to Comedy Central? you'd make a great comedian

 

[Mr Krugga]

The HD7870 with an aftermarket cooler is already £269, including postage, on pre-order from one of the biggest retailers in the country. The cheapest GTX570 I can find is the OcUK own brand one for £250.

Aren't they all fitted with custom coolers now?

While the 7850 is a good card, and can be, if you're pushing at it, be considered value over a 69XX, it's still like 30 quid more expensive than you'd like, if the 7850 and 7870 launched at say, 160 and 200, I think they'd be much better bang for buck cards.

Yeah, they're nothing to get excited about but they're aren't bad cards either.

Would be great if released in the place of Radeon 6900 series a year or two ago...

With the 7870 being $300 instead of $350, that is.

 

[ALXAndy]

I assume at least the salvage GK104 part must be under £300??

I just can't see it. Looking at the card picture that has been posted it doesn't look like a cheap card. Call it intuition, call it Nvidia needing to claw back some funds.

What is the most telling is that they have not dropped prices on their 500 series cards. I have absolutely no idea why, but I just can't see many 570s and 580s selling since the launch of the 7950 and 7970.

They could be doing that for a few reasons. I know that in the Fermi interim they ran out of 200 series cards, so maybe they don't want them all selling out fast? Or it could be that Kepler cards are going to cost considerably more, so will make them look good value still?

Either way, no mid-high or high end Nvidia card has ever released for £300.

GTX 470 was £350 IIRC.

 

[Martini1991]

I just can't see it. Looking at the card picture that has been posted it doesn't look like a cheap card. Call it intuition, call it Nvidia needing to claw back some funds.

What is the most telling is that they have not dropped prices on their 500 series cards. I have absolutely no idea why, but I just can't see many 570s and 580s selling since the launch of the 7950 and 7970.

They could be doing that for a few reasons. I know that in the Fermi interim they ran out of 200 series cards, so maybe they don't want them all selling out fast? Or it could be that Kepler cards are going to cost considerably more, so will make them look good value still?

Either way, no mid-high or high end Nvidia card has ever released for £300.

GTX 470 was £350 IIRC.

What about the GTX560 Ti 448? That's fairly mid high and it's not 300 quid.

GTX470 also dropped like a brick, at 350 it was massively overpriced.

 

[Mr Krugga]

I just can't see it. Looking at the card picture that has been posted it doesn't look like a cheap card. Call it intuition, call it Nvidia needing to claw back some funds.

What is the most telling is that they have not dropped prices on their 500 series cards. I have absolutely no idea why, but I just can't see many 570s and 580s selling since the launch of the 7950 and 7970.

They could be doing that for a few reasons. I know that in the Fermi interim they ran out of 200 series cards, so maybe they don't want them all selling out fast? Or it could be that Kepler cards are going to cost considerably more, so will make them look good value still?

Either way, no mid-high or high end Nvidia card has ever released for £300.

GTX 470 was £350 IIRC.

If they're about to release the high-end Kepler card(s) first, it would make sense to wait with the discounts until release, in the meantime offering rebates over in the US (already happening, see GTX560 and 580s).

They might not release a direct replacement for GTX570 and lower cards in a good while yet (just guessing).

 

[555BUK]

The HD7870 with an aftermarket cooler is already £269, including postage, on pre-order from one of the biggest retailers in the country. The cheapest GTX570 I can find is the OcUK own brand one for £250.

Well, ** No competitor price hinting ** . It seems that almost all (if not all) 7850's will have aftermarket coolers upon release, and the one that I think you are taliking will not be strong if their previous budget end (non-DirectCU) coolers are anything to go by.

Out of the 570 and 7870 I would go for the 7870 if I really had to chose, mainly because I have already owned most of the GTX4xx, GTX5xx and 69xx series cards. I llike new and shiny.

The 7850 @ £185 is a better bet than a 7870 @ £270. It may have 20% fewer shaders, but once clocked to 7870 speeds it is only about 8-10% slower. ~90% of 7870 for 65% of the price seems pretty good to me (and yes, I know the 7870's overclock better).

The 7870 is overpriced compared to current alternatives (including the 7850, 6950, GTX570), and also baring in mind it's low production cost. The 7850 is okay'ish, being the best value 7x00 card so far, but still does not win any great value medals.

edit: The "GTX480 special" is the currently the best sub £200 to get for outright performance.

 

[Mr Krugga]

Well, ****** . It seems that almost all (if not all) 7850's will have aftermarket coolers upon release, and the one that I think you are taliking will not be strong if their previous budget end (non-DirectCU) coolers are anything to go by.

Out of the 570 and 7870 I would go for the 7870 if I really had to chose, mainly because I have already owned most of the GTX4xx, GTX5xx and 69xx series cards. I llike new and shiny.

The 7850 @ £185 is a better bet than a 7870 @ £270. It may have 20% fewer shaders, but once clocked to 7870 speeds it is only about 8-10% slower. ~90% of 7870 for 65% of the price seems pretty good to me (and yes, I know the 7870's overclock better).

The 7870 is overpriced compared to current alternatives (including the 7850, 6950, GTX570), and also baring in mind it's low production cost. The 7850 is okay'ish, being the best value 7x00 card so far, but still does not win any great value medals.

The 7870 don't seem to overclock better in terms of % but they definitely overclock past the 7850s nominal clocks.

Agreed on the rest.

 

[ALXAndy]

If they're about to release the high-end Kepler card(s) first, it would make sense to wait with the discounts until release, in the meantime offering rebates over in the US (already happening, see GTX560 and 580s).

They might not release a direct replacement for GTX570 and lower cards in a good while yet (just guessing).

They only put rebates on product they are desperate to sell.

You have to consider that companies such as EVGA are in trouble right now. It's what happens when you side with one company and their products become hard to sell and or irrelevant.

Don't you find it odd that they have managed to muster up all these 480s to sell? In the USA a certain company sold 80 of them on the first day at $250, 35 more for $219 and now have another 66 for $299.

Surely EVGA knew they had all these cards before? why not sell them then?

Times are hard. They're not about to start offering rebates on brand new cards, they need to make some money.

 

[Mr Krugga]

They only put rebates on product they are desperate to sell.

You have to consider that companies such as EVGA are in trouble right now. It's what happens when you side with one company and their products become hard to sell and or irrelevant.

Don't you find it odd that they have managed to muster up all these 480s to sell? In the USA a certain company sold 80 of them on the first day at $250, 35 more for $219 and now have another 66 for $299.

Surely EVGA knew they had all these cards before? why not sell them then?

Times are hard. They're not about to start offering rebates on brand new cards, they need to make some money.

They're clearing up the stocks, can't store the old old generation in the warehouses.

My guess it's even the reserves normally kept for RMAs. Lucky customers who manage to break their cards might get 570/580s replacements.