Father not allowed to be alone with his daughter after reporting CP images on his computer to police

[Haggisman]

The only person that raised suspicion regarding his activities was himself.

By informing the police.

The man is clever enough to know where to get his music so I'm sure he also has the wit to delete anything he doesn't want on his machine, the whole story reeks of him being busted by his missus and him then trying to BS her with some pathetic explanation, an explanation that'll probably end up being proved to be a pack of lies.

Most people are "clever" enough to know where to get their music. Everyone has heard of Piratebay and Isohunt these days. However ask those same people if they know how to do a secure 7 pass erase and you'll most likely get a blank stare.

It's entirely plausible that he did download it completely innocently (well, obviously other than the piracy part ), and thought to inform the police to give them a potential lead on the actual guilty parties.

Nobody has considered these points as they're not really relevant to the conversation.

They are completely relevant to the situation, however since you've already made up your mind that he's guilty, you're not exactly going to be receptive to conflicting evidence.

Everyone is suggesting DBAN, destroy the drive etc. however seem to be forgetting that this is a computer enthusiast forum, most people don't have the first clue about data security.

You're also missing the point that he may actually have been trying (naively) to help out the police by providing evidence and leads on actual criminals.

Wife walks in on man looking at CP, wife goes mental, man makes pathetic excuse, gullible wife falls for it.

Why do you have such a vendetta against this guy? What makes you so utterly convinced that he is guilty?

 

[Cuchulain]

By informing the police.



Most people are "clever" enough to know where to get their music. Everyone has heard of Piratebay and Isohunt these days. However ask those same people if they know how to do a secure 7 pass erase and you'll most likely get a blank stare.

It's entirely plausible that he did download it completely innocently (well, obviously other than the piracy part ), and thought to inform the police to give them a potential lead on the actual guilty parties.



They are completely relevant to the situation, however since you've already made up your mind that he's guilty, you're not exactly going to be receptive to conflicting evidence.

Everyone is suggesting DBAN, destroy the drive etc. however seem to be forgetting that this is a computer enthusiast forum, most people don't have the first clue about data security.

You're also missing the point that he may actually have been trying (naively) to help out the police by providing evidence and leads on actual criminals.



Why do you have such a vendetta against this guy? What makes you so utterly convinced that he is guilty?

I'm not convinced he's guilty, on balance given human nature and the little hearsay evidence we have from the press, I suspect he is. If you're gullible enough to suspect the opposite that's fine, it's your opinion and you're as entitled to it as I am mine.

 

[realBabelfish]

I've never actually downloaded a file only to think it wasnt what I thought it was, I dont use those file sharing torrent sites at all.

AVG free and currently around 18 months of paid Kapersky Internet Security keep me malware free.

Well, AVG free was crap actually, I bought a 2 year license for another decent visus scanner, but cant remember what it was called and it wouldnt work when I bought windows vista so I forgot about it.

years ago when i used to download movies they were often the wrong film for the filename. i guess some people used to make multiple copies of movies with different names to make their shares look bigger?!

i have actually found a few decent indie movies like that. no pron tho.

 

[realBabelfish]

On the issue of child pornography / paedophilia, the law is 100% wrong on how it deals with these scums by simply sending them to prison.

Just give them a mere slap on the wrist, and take away their marbles. Lesson leaned and it wont ever happen again.

Also maybe consider replacing their sausage with a pasty.

you will find it even more annoying when you realise that sex offenders get their own wing in jails. a paedo will have a much easier time in jail than a shoplifter, who would be locked up with all the psychos.

also the sentences are a lot less than you think. paedos getting shorter sentences than burglars for example.

 

[glenimp617]

Lots of people use usenet, what's to prevent someone posting this content as something else....like a tv show or movie.

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Lots of people use usenet, what's to prevent someone posting this content as something else....like a tv show or movie.

Nothing, bit like the old days of Napster, Limewire, etc with the "Metallica-BlackAlbum.exe" and so on.

What possessed him to go to the Police after finding CP on his own PC I'll never know, surely you'd just go "urgh" and hit delete?

 

[fez]

I'm sure that there is more to this than we are being told. Its very hard to remove a child from their parents care even when the parents and a complete waste of space and have been their entire life.

They wouldn't impose these restrictions without reasonable doubt as to the truth behind the guys story. It doesn't make it clear whether he downloaded what he thought was music or whether he just found the images on his computer and claims he has been hacked.

 

[iviv]

What possessed him to go to the Police after finding CP on his own PC I'll never know, surely you'd just go "urgh" and hit delete?

Perhaps he wanted to inform the police of where he'd found it so they could go after the guy uploading it?

From the sounds of the case, it sounds like he was using something like Kazaa, or whatever the current equivalent of that is, rather than usenet or torrents, where there were so many mislabed files.

Plus, he probably paniced when he saw it, thought he would somehow be traced, and decided to hand himself in to show he was innocent, since the alternative would be to delete it and pretend nothing happened. And if the police were tracking the CP then that would look extremely suspicious.

 

[bhavv]

you will find it even more annoying when you realise that sex offenders get their own wing in jails. a paedo will have a much easier time in jail than a shoplifter, who would be locked up with all the psychos.

also the sentences are a lot less than you think. paedos getting shorter sentences than burglars for example.

Sending people to jail for petty crimes is simply wrong in the first place and I disagree with it.

Send a person to jail for smoking weed and put him in a cell next to a psycho, but give the peado's their own private wings? Human Rights be screwed, if someone kills anyone else, or physically assault / batter / rape anyone, their entitlement to human rights should be forfeit.

 

[MrMoonX]

social services in insane incompetence shocker, who would have thought it...

dolph in insane assumption whilst reading daily mail


this story is man gets busted makes up story, wife says why don't you phone the police then, now in too deep so goes to press

you don't download music and "accidentally" get CP

/thread

 

[mattyg]

Regarding the social services. Their job is very tough often their hands are tied and with cutbacks things are worse. I've seen things from both sides (we were emergency fosterer s) And as a result of our less than brilliant experience my other half has been studying for the last 5 yrs and wants to be a social worker for at risk children.

Yes they may make mistakes but they also save a lot of lives. Sometimes things do go drastically wrong and when they do things should be put in place so that never happens again.

Like MRmoonx above that may be the reasoning behind what the socialworker thought.

No smoke without fire.

If he had downloaded CP by accident then deleting it wouldn't have got him into any trouble at all the police "IF" they were able to trace him would see that he downloaded a file thinking it was a music track and upon finding out what it really was he immediately deleted it.

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Perhaps he wanted to inform the police of where he'd found it so they could go after the guy uploading it?

From the sounds of the case, it sounds like he was using something like Kazaa, or whatever the current equivalent of that is, rather than usenet or torrents, where there were so many mislabed files.

"Hi, I'd like to report that I've found some Child Pornography in amongst my illegally acquired movies and Full TV Series"

Yes, I can see how that would go well for him.

 

[Clav]

I'm not going to jump to any conlusions on this one but something certainly isn't ringing true.

 

[Scania]

Where the hell was he downloading 'music' from?

Makes you wonder.

 

[RetiredGreyFox]

Wife walks in on man looking at CP, wife goes mental, man makes pathetic excuse, gullible wife falls for it.

Yeah, still doesn't make sense.
If his wife has fell for it why have they both gone to the Police?
If he was guilty he would have done everything not to go to the Police - now that makes sense.

 

[bam0]

as any decent forensic toolkit will recover files that have not only been dleted but in some cases overwritten.

You should probably hand your degree back if you actually think you can recover data that has been overwritten, unless you didn't actually mean that.

 

[Haggisman]

You should probably hand your degree back if you actually think you can recover data that has been overwritten, unless you didn't actually mean that.

Actually, depending on how it has been overwritten, it's perfectly possible with the right tools

 

[ubersonic]

This crap happens all the time, if you find CP when doing any data recorvery or work on anyones computer just ignore it, its like a golden rule, reporting it is more trouble than its worth.

 

[BunnyKillBot]

Actually, depending on how it has been overwritten, it's perfectly possible with the right tools

If that were true, why are not all running our TB hard drives with capacity x 2, since it seems magically possible to store two files in one location?

 

[Djwayne]

You should probably hand your degree back if you actually think you can recover data that has been overwritten, unless you didn't actually mean that.

It is possible to retrieve data that has been overwritten several times let alone once. Get some forensic tools and have a play around I think it will be an enlightening experience