Father not allowed to be alone with his daughter after reporting CP images on his computer to police

Nerusy said:
Isn't it more likely that he got busted by his wife, then she put an ultimatum such as she will call the police if he will not?
Music eh...that sounds like an excuse, all of us downloaded music ain't never did we stumbled upon child porn did we, is he the the unluckiest guy in the universe to be the first one? Doubt it.
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To be fair, back in the days of Kazaa etc. I came across a few (pun not intended :p) "interesting" videos innocently named and posing as various TV series, movies etc. so it's not impossible...

I wonder, if the guy does get proved innocent, does he have any comeback against the police/SS, or does he just have to accept it?

Edit: It would appear that "SS" is a somewhat appropriate abbreviation ;)
 
gregster said:
100% right. The Social Services allow abusive parents to carry on living with the children and yet a man who was worried about his computers porn, does the right thing by informing the police and maybe they can find the source.

Crazy just crazy and the knock on effect this will have on the family is dreadfull.
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I think your being narrow minded, baby p and Victoria Climbie cases have the social services teams so uptight as they know they screwed up and are now over reacting. They would rather over react and damage an adults life than have another severely abused child.
 
xibinim said:
How does it take up to a year for them to analyse the computer!?
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When i was doing my comp forensics degree we were told that the police only had enough resource to investigate 10% of computer based crime and as the analysis process is quite time consuming I can see it just being a case of a backlog.
 
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I'm willing to bet that he doesn't actually realise how much info. computer forensics will end up with, once they've got all the logs from his ISP and trawled through everything he's deleted in the past I reckon he'll end up being charged. As other people have said, his wife probably caught him and he's made this whole thing up.
 
Cuchulain said:
As other people have said, his wife probably caught him and he's made this whole thing up.
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And this attitude is exactly why this kind of accusation is so damaging. The assumption of guilt regardless of any evidence or lack thereof.

Imagine if the guy was a teacher (or any other profession working with children), he would most likely now have lost his job (and career) and find it extremely difficult to find any alternative employment. For what? Downloading music, something which probably 90% of people on this forum have done?

Even if he is never charged, do you think people will look at him in the same way? It no longer matters if he did anything wrong, he's now "the guy who got accused of downloading child porn".
 
Haggisman said:
And this attitude is exactly why this kind of accusation is so damaging. The assumption of guilt regardless of any evidence or lack thereof.

Imagine if the guy was a teacher (or any other profession working with children), he would most likely now have lost his job (and career) and find it extremely difficult to find any alternative employment. For what? Downloading music, something which probably 90% of people on this forum have done?

Even if he is never charged, do you think people will look at him in the same way? It no longer matters if he did anything wrong, he's now "the guy who got accused of downloading child porn".
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The only person that raised suspicion regarding his activities was himself. Yes, millions of people download music illegally but I bet none of them "accidently" downloaded child pornography and then rang the police should that extremely unlikely event occur.

The man is clever enough to know where to get his music so I'm sure he also has the wit to delete anything he doesn't want on his machine, the whole story reeks of him being busted by his missus and him then trying to BS her with some pathetic explanation, an explanation that'll probably end up being proved to be a pack of lies.
 
Nice to see trial by forum active on here again lol

We have very little info on this case except a news report yet people are very quick to jump to conclusions. I have a computer forensics degree so will chuck a few things on the table here that nobody has considered.

Malware : first thing to check when analysing a drive as its not unknown for malware to download this type of material.

Users : here is a key point there is objectinable material on the laptop but can you decide whose hands were on the keyboard when it was downloaded.

Mislabelled file : how many times have people on here downloaded movie x or album y to find its not what they thoguht it was?

Possession of certain types of images is illegal and deletion will only do you so much as any decent forensic toolkit will recover files that have not only been dleted but in some cases overwritten.

Saw several cases while at uni where second hand cheap hard drives were bought off ebay for the purpose of seeing what data we could recover back from them and finding all sorts of stuff including material like this and the policy was it had to be reported.
 
Djwayne said:
Nice to see trial by forum active on here again lol

We have very little info on this case except a news report yet people are very quick to jump to conclusions. I have a computer forensics degree so will chuck a few things on the table here that nobody has considered.

Malware : first thing to check when analysing a drive as its not unknown for malware to download this type of material.

Users : here is a key point there is objectinable material on the laptop but can you decide whose hands were on the keyboard when it was downloaded.

Mislabelled file : how many times have people on here downloaded movie x or album y to find its not what they thoguht it was?

Possession of certain types of images is illegal and deletion will only do you so much as any decent forensic toolkit will recover files that have not only been dleted but in some cases overwritten.

Saw several cases while at uni where second hand cheap hard drives were bought off ebay for the purpose of seeing what data we could recover back from them and finding all sorts of stuff including material like this and the policy was it had to be reported.
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Nobody has considered these points as they're not really relevant to the conversation.
 
OK, It's all well and good the police looking at the computer and sending it to their specialist team of experts.

but.....

I don't care how good these experts are, if you find anything like that.....surely you'd secure erase the disk multiple times, replace it with a brand new one and smash the 'infected' one into a billion pieces. No idea on the internals of a disk but there must be a way of either cutting up the platters and then melting them on a fire.

What a prat for going to the police, somethings fishy here.
 
JBod said:
I think it is quote obvious what happened from this small section:

Man gets busted by wife, makes up story claiming innocence.
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Your suspicions don't make sense.
Bloke goes looking for paedo material, finds it, tells wife and they report it to the Police.
It 100% wouldn't happen.

or

Man goes looking for paedo material, finds it and hides it, wife finds it, goes beserk and they both agree it's for the best to report it to the Police and make a lie up.
It 100% wouldn't happen.
 
I've never actually downloaded a file only to think it wasnt what I thought it was, I dont use those file sharing torrent sites at all.

AVG free and currently around 18 months of paid Kapersky Internet Security keep me malware free.

Well, AVG free was crap actually, I bought a 2 year license for another decent visus scanner, but cant remember what it was called and it wouldnt work when I bought windows vista so I forgot about it.
 
I would just erase the disk if it happened to me, problem solved. Windows 7 now zeroes the disk with a full format which is convenient.
 
It's just as likely that it was a genuine mistake and he was scared they might trace the download later on so he told his wife and they decided to report it.

It's guilty until proven innocent nowadays though.
 
Dimple said:
Your suspicions don't make sense.
Bloke goes looking for paedo material, finds it, tells wife and they report it to the Police.
It 100% wouldn't happen.

or

Man goes looking for paedo material, finds it and hides it, wife finds it, goes beserk and they both agree it's for the best to report it to the Police and make a lie up.
It 100% wouldn't happen.
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Wife walks in on man looking at CP, wife goes mental, man makes pathetic excuse, gullible wife falls for it.
 
Nightglow said:
Having been fostered nearly 50 years ago, looking back to my experience with the SS then, they were much more sensible,& considered all the options first before bringing out the big guns.

Whereas today they caused no end of problems, as already mention by Groen.
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And that's the precise reason there is a serious foster family shortage in the UK - Social Services are significantly more put upon with larger case numbers and more paperwork so rather than risk getting it wrong they would bring out the big guns sooner.

I've had discussions with a few SS workers I know over the last few months and although some wouldn't admit it, others have openly said that with recent high profile cases they would rather be overprotective than risk another BabyP scenario and get hung out to dry.

On topic, it's very difficult to know how this CP got onto the guys laptop - if he bought it 2nd hand, someone else had access to his PC, work (or ex-work) laptop etc.

Sadly mud sticks in this sort of scenario and if this guy truly is 100% innocent I do really feel sorry for him.

Then there is this:
Cuchulain said:
Wife walks in on man looking at CP, wife goes mental, man makes pathetic excuse, gullible wife falls for it.
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In which case, string him up by his marbles
 
On the issue of child pornography / paedophilia, the law is 100% wrong on how it deals with these scums by simply sending them to prison.

Just give them a mere slap on the wrist, and take away their marbles. Lesson leaned and it wont ever happen again.

Also maybe consider replacing their sausage with a pasty.
 
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