Huge tyre braking distance test

[Overlag]

Lol Falken. Cheap tyres after all.

Those budget tyres do "ok" in the dry but the wet braking results are SCARY!

 

[Joshy]

I didn't know Wanli was a real tyre brand, I thought it was a joke tyre that Fox had invented!

Words cannot accurately describe just how absolutely horrific they are. They'd be assuming if they weren't so dangerous.

 

[mejinks]

Thats because 99% of the time you press the brake and the car stops. You've never crashed into anything when stopping therefore you've not had a problem. Doesn't stop them being comparatively turd with only the glow of low price to make you feel fuzzy

I do try to drive within my skill level

I could take the view that the money I have saved buying a few sets would offset the cost of a new bumper

Out of interest where can one get nokians in 255 40 18 and 245 45 18?

 

[Rizo-UK]

Good to see the rainsport 2 up near the top

Yup great tyre, loads better than the falkens i had previous. 5k miles from the fronts on falkens

 

[Muffin`]

Would be interested to see comparative performance numbers between AD08 and other tyres.

Unfortunately it's just not possible to quantify a proper driving tyre to numbers, it's that feeling deep down that you know what grip you have available and that the tyre and car will let you know when you're running out.

 

[[TW]Fox]

You can still measure stopping distances and aquaplane resistance though which is very useful to know though I agree quantitative data is of no use when judging feel etc.

 

[Jonny ///M]

I use T1Rs which are similar to the T1S as far I can read isn't a bad thing. Not great but for £50 fitted a tyre I won't complain.

 

[Muffin`]

You can still measure stopping distances and aquaplane resistance though which is very useful to know though I agree quantitative data is of no use when judging feel etc.

Useful to who? A-B drivers reviewing the data won't fit AD08's based on the review data. People who fit AD08's know they're on a wing and a praying in downpours and drive accordingly.

The AD08's will perform best when they're up to temperature which comes from pressing on and I'd assume (no where is temp specified in summer tyres) that you'll be reaching the limits of the other tyres where the AD08 will still continue to perform.

The AD08's will lose out being expensive to the competition, harsher, louder and uneconomical along with every other compromise of a road going track tyre.

Reviewing performance tyres can work as long as there's an articulate gentleman at the wheel as he pushes it on different types of car. For example reviewing Bridgestone RE11's or RE070's on a Mercedes 230 CLK or Audi S3 will fall on deaf ears of those of us who drive complete opposite style of cars. But that's getting towards a a narrower and narrower market sector which brings in less revenue to the point that they just don't bother.

 

[Muffin`]

I use T1Rs which are similar to the T1S as far I can read isn't a bad thing. Not great but for £50 fitted a tyre I won't complain.

I've got them on my DC2, they're fine for 'pottering' about but push on and they just wobble away or spin (even in the dry!). For £15 more I could get Continental Sport Contact 2's which still wouldn't suit the car but they'll be better in every other respect (even cost factoring wear rate).

 

[MikeHiow]

People who fit AD08's know they're on a wing and a praying in downpours and drive accordingly.

We do?

If I'm to be completely honest, I've never had a tyre perform so well in the wet.

That sits amongst PE2s, CS2s and CS3s - all are apparently awesome in the wet.

They might suck at aquaplaning, however, this is a relatively rare occurrence.

The first proper run I had on them was a wet night at around 0c and I was blown away at how well they worked. As you say though, that was with keeping a bit of temperature in them.

With all that in mind, I think their real party trick is how well they perform, while wearing really well on track.

I've got them on my DC2, they're fine for 'pottering' about but push on and they just wobble away or spin (even in the dry!). For £15 more I could get Continental Sport Contact 2's which still wouldn't suit the car but they'll be better in every other respect (even cost factoring wear rate).

And the T1Rs are suited to the car?

Hondas like hard sidewalls don't they? and you're running the complete opposite?

 

[Jonny ///M]

I've got them on my DC2, they're fine for 'pottering' about but push on and they just wobble away or spin (even in the dry!). For £15 more I could get Continental Sport Contact 2's which still wouldn't suit the car but they'll be better in every other respect (even cost factoring wear rate).

The only Conti I can see on Blackcircles is the Premium contact and it's £90/97 a tyre. Quite a jump! To be fair the same size T1R is £77.

Running 195/50/15 instead of 195/55/15 makes it £53 a tyre for T1R.

 

[LizardKing]

Lol Falken. Cheap tyres after all.

Wonder why they didn't test the 912 or 452 rather opting for the 453

Doesn't look to good for them though.


And no Dunlop's tested at all

 

[thecremeegg]

love my rainsports, excellent tyre imo

 

[Matt82]

Has the t1r been updated in the last 10 years since the t1s?

 

[Berger]

Has the t1r been updated in the last 10 years since the t1s?

The T1-R has been out for many many years now too!

 

[nutcase]

Not suprised that Nokians did very well. Held in very high regard. Would've been nice to see a Neuton tyre in there as well.

 

[rodenal]

I'm most surprised by the fulda and nexxen tested there tbh, most of the others come out roughly where I would expect though they seem to have made some odd tyre choices.

 

[AnastieByte]

When I bought my Mazda the dealer had put Wanli tyres on. Horrendous the car may as well have being driving on the bare alloy.

Interesting reading.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Useful to who? A-B drivers reviewing the data won't fit AD08's based on the review data.

Just thought it would be interesting to see how they do, thats all

Subjective opinion is absolutely the most useful thing for aspects like feel, handling, feedback, etc etc - all crucially important on something like a track tyre.

But you can get contradictions with subjective opinion when it comes to things that *can* be accurately measured. For example:

People who fit AD08's know they're on a wing and a praying in downpours and drive accordingly.

We do?

If I'm to be completely honest, I've never had a tyre perform so well in the wet.

Quantitative testing is really useful for bits like that I'd imagine you are right and MikeH is wrong (Especially as he confusingly goes on to mention that yea, actually aquaplaning isnt so hot after ignoring the fact you said 'downpour' rather than just 'wet'), but it does highlight what can happen with opinion.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Wonder why they didn't test the 912 or 452 rather opting for the 453

Is 453 the 452 replacement?