Virgin Media new STM today

That's because Sky did told the public before BT release the news that all UK FTTC 40/10 will be upgrade to 80/20 from April 10th. I think Sky will using 80/20 instead.

40/10 isn't being upgraded to 80/20. They went for 40/2 because it'll save them money.
 
The reason I currently pay for the top package with VM is to avoid this kind of stuff.

It's time to start looking for alternatives if it comes to the new 120mb package.

Yeah, like all those alternative ISPs that offer 120Mbit... oh wait.

Even the throttled speeds of 100-120Mbit are faster than the maximum speed of BT/Sky connections, so VM still wins.
 
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The new STM is pretty great really once you get your speed doubled. I mean, if you go over your limit, you will go back to your old speed, which is fast enough anyway and still download as much as you want.
 
The new STM is pretty great really once you get your speed doubled. I mean, if you go over your limit, you will go back to your old speed, which is fast enough anyway and still download as much as you want.

Unless of course you've been spec'ed October 2012 - June 2013 as your upgrade, and you now have a cap you've never had before.
 
Unless of course you've been spec'ed October 2012 - June 2013 as your upgrade, and you now have a cap you've never had before.

Could try calling VM and asking to get the upgrade early. Quite a lot of people have been pushed to the 60MB package by asking for it. Its just a config for the modem, although I'm not sure if a requested upgrade gets put on the new STM. Requested upgrades also don't get the upload boosted, just the download until they are actually meant to be upgraded.
 
The reason I currently pay for the top package with VM is to avoid this kind of stuff.

It's time to start looking for alternatives if it comes to the new 120mb package.
Well a call to retentions, who tend to be more clued up than most, and I've been told that the 100mb (120mb) will remain uncapped. She wasn't sure at first but checked with a couple others in the office and this is what they informed her.
 
Yeah, like all those alternative ISPs that offer 120Mbit... oh wait.

Even the throttled speeds of 100-120Mbit are faster than the maximum speed of BT/Sky connections, so VM still wins.

You're missing my point.

I don't want to be paying for 120 when, in reality, I'll be getting 60 with a 120 'burst'. [30GB really isn't much to a 100mb downstream].

Couldn't care less if I paid less and received a constant, uncapped, speed.


Well a call to retentions, who tend to be more clued up than most, and I've been told that the 100mb (120mb) will remain uncapped. She wasn't sure at first but checked with a couple others in the office and this is what they informed her.

Fingers crossed this is the case. Although retentions might just be telling you what you want to hear.
 
Could try calling VM and asking to get the upgrade early. Quite a lot of people have been pushed to the 60MB package by asking for it. Its just a config for the modem, although I'm not sure if a requested upgrade gets put on the new STM. Requested upgrades also don't get the upload boosted, just the download until they are actually meant to be upgraded.

My upgrade would be to the 100mb, I'd need a new Modem wouldn't I?
 
You're missing my point.

I don't want to be paying for 120 when, in reality, I'll be getting 60 with a 120 'burst'. [30GB really isn't much to a 100mb downstream]..

Well really you are paying for 50mbit still, they didn't double the price when they doubled the speed.
 
what's my upload limit, that seems to be incomprehensible from that table? ... 12GB up? .. That's only about 3 hours if for example, I was 'seeding' at max, so now I have to start worrying about whether I'm uploading too fast or not. jesus christ, that's why i'm on 100MB I shouldn't have to care.

Perhaps if people didn't 'seed' at the maximum available bandwidth during peak hours, they wouldn't have to introduce caps.
 
you think 210GB a week unrestricted is unfair then?

Can't understand why people are complaining either. These caps are all reasonable, if you need over 10gigs every evening between 4pm and 9pm can you really not just wait and download as much as you want after those hours?
 
Can't understand why people are complaining either. These caps are all reasonable, if you need over 10gigs every evening between 4pm and 9pm can you really not just wait and download as much as you want after those hours?

Yes but if downloading heavily after 9pm say 40Gb every night then Virgin Media will fire away sent you a warning letter to cut down on your usage allowance. I seen many virgin customers get a warning letters of too much downloading.
 
This doesn't bother me at all, in fact it's an improvement. There have been times when I needed to download a steam game at prime time and hit my cap, now if I do it won't matter as much. The vast majority of my downloading is outside of STM times anyway, and my usenet provider does SSL over port 443 so that also isn't slowed by VM at all.

I want fast speeds when I want them, and for sustained huge downloads I can just schedule them, or take a small hit as going from 60Mb to 30Mb is still perfectly reasonable IMO. If you are one of the people that would regularly hit the cap due to download tons at prime time, then feel free to switch provider, it'll help out VM and lower load on the network, we are better off :D
 
Perhaps if people didn't 'seed' at the maximum available bandwidth during peak hours, they wouldn't have to introduce caps.

Why wouldnt i want to use maximum bandwidth for what ever im doing?


Virgin already use throttling on p2p /torrents if thats what youre hinting at.

On my old 10 meg connection i regulary used to exceed the daily upload through my webserver, hosting images and other files and data backups/transfers. So now its possible again for this to heppen, before it wasnt.

The fact the 'punishment' (for using your connection) is throttled for 5 hours sucks this means if your limit is exceeded during the day then your evening browsing is also knackered.
 
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The fact the 'punishment' (for using your connection) is throttled for 5 hours sucks this means if your limit is exceeded during the day then your evening browsing is also knackered.

You don't need high speed broadband to browse, you'll be limited to 25Mbit or 50Mbit if you've been upgraded, which is more than enough.
 
Why wouldnt i want to use maximum bandwidth for what ever im doing?


Virgin already use throttling on p2p /torrents if thats what youre hinting at.

On my old 10 meg connection i regulary used to exceed the daily upload through my webserver, hosting images and other files and data backups/transfers. So now its possible again for this to heppen, before it wasnt.

The fact the 'punishment' (for using your connection) is throttled for 5 hours sucks this means if your limit is exceeded during the day then your evening browsing is also knackered.
How would a 50% cap "knacker" your browsing?

And can you really not do most of those things out of peak hours? Any large transfer can be scheduled surely.
 
How would a 50% cap "knacker" your browsing?

And can you really not do most of those things out of peak hours? Any large transfer can be scheduled surely.


Why should we have to schedule a large (non warez) download though?

e.g I get home from work and see the i'm in the beta of the new mmorpg and can start after downloading the client (it's 20GB) I think no worries I pay for super fast (100mb) broadband except now instead of taking just over 26 minutes it takes at least 39 minutes. plus then you normally have to download patches etc. that are only going to download at half your normal speed. If i Schedule it during non peak times I have to wait until the next evening to play it.

p.s. you could change mmorpg download to steam download or psn download or any direct download game.

Also though I can find no "proof" of this but have seen others mentioning it, when you hit the limit not only do you get your speed reduced by 50% it also seems to reduce the priority of anything else you do on the net for the 5 hours.
 
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