Here we go again, teachers striking again...

I find it amazing how this world works sometimes.

We're not happy so we'll strike, we want more money so we'll strike. we want blah so we'll strike.

Meanwhile over the other side of the employment fence.

We're unemployed, give us a job. We want money, Give us a job. We want to give our lives meaning, give us a job.

Hmm... There's a job shortage in this country and unemployment figures are astounding... Yet there are people in the jobs not willing to do them.

AHA! SOLUTION! IT'S SO SIMPLES.
 
It annoys me that they say they are striking because of an ideological and prejudicial attack on the education system.....when the truth is they are striking to protect their own benefits and pay, things like 13 weeks holiday, the ability to retire on generous final salary pensions at 50 and want to ringfence their salaries from the need to cut public sector deficits.....

Whatever the reasons and justifications of striking to protect their generous benefits is, I wish they were honest about it.
 
K1LLSW1TCH said:
If they weren't happy with the wage then why did they take the job in the first place?
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Well they were, is this not still related to their pensions/retirement being crippled?

You'd be perfectly right if they were striking to say 'give us more' but it's more about 'stop taking away' as far as i'm aware.

I'm sure you'd be just as upset if your company told you that you would be getting paid less, or having your pension cut, regardless of the reasoning behind it.
 
As far as I'm aware though, they still get more out of it than they put in. It's just the percentage that the government contributes which is becoming smaller.

...Atleast that's what I've been led to believe. The way i see it, the country is skint and we're all making sacrifices. Paying more for stuff, and getting less for it. Just like their pension scheme
 
They need to wake up and look at the rest of the country. Wrong time and no sympathy, by cutting salaries it saves jobs
 
Kenai said:
Well they were, is this not still related to their pensions/retirement being crippled?

You'd be perfectly right if they were striking to say 'give us more' but it's more about 'stop taking away' as far as i'm aware.

I'm sure you'd be just as upset if your company told you that you would be getting paid less, or having your pension cut, regardless of the reasoning behind it.
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Their pensions are not being crippled, they are being bought into a more realistic and sustainable system. Their pensions will still be generous compared to private sector equivalents and while it is obviously something they wish to oppose (who wouldn't) it is a bit rich to suggest they are being crippled.

This has been the case with pensions across the private sector for some time and while the public sector has been largely protected by the need to readdress the deficits in pension funds, it is now apparent that the system is unsustainable in the long term.
 
'Someone who gets decent compensation for spending their life in public service? I hate em, I bloody hate em. Everyone should be as screwed over as me.'

This country is depressing. We are not all in it together by a long shot; the political and economic elite are continuing to make out like bandits while the corporate media turns workers against each other.

Do people actually believe the government and employers aren't using the recession as an excuse to roll-back workers' rights? Perhaps some of the posters in this thread should consider reading about industrial relations for the past several hundred years to get an idea of how much they care about being fair.
 
Castiel said:
Their pensions are not being crippled, they are being bought into a more realistic and sustainable system. Their pensions will still be generous compared to private sector equivalents and while it is obviously something they wish to oppose (who wouldn't) it is a bit rich to suggest they are being crippled.

This has been the case with pensions across the private sector for some time and while the public sector has been largely protected by the need to readdress the deficits in pension funds, it is now apparent that the system is unsustainable in the long term.
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Frankly I couldn't give a flying **** whether 'crippled' is the right term for it or not, I just thought it unfair for them to be criticised for striking for more money when in reality they are striking to prevent things being taken away from them, so comments like 'why take the job in the first place' are completely unfounded.
 
mrbell1984 said:
Education needs a reform.
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Indeed, and unfortunately with these strikes about pensions, salaries, opposition to academies and self-governing school bodies, along with a raft of other issues such as making it easier for Schools to remove poor teaching staff, term changes that benefit students (but impact on the Teachers ability to take 6 weeks off at a time) etc., the teaching unions and by association their members are biggest barrier to those reforms.

It is telling that the same people who accuse the Govt of putting the education of children at risk are the people who by striking and the times in which they choose to strike are actually the ones doing the most damage.
 
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If you have a lower teaching salary then you're not going to attract the better people to become teachers. And god knows that worse teachers are one of the last things this country needs.

You're upset that they're striking over not getting what they were told they would get? You do realize that that's how the trade union movement actually works, right? It stops the employers from having the ultimate authority to exploit their employees. If you don't do that, just lie there and take it then they do do whatever they want to cut costs and save money which just leads us on a backwards path of worse working conditions.
 
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