Looking for a better motor, Advice?

tbh whats the point? surely it eats tyres. If I use my gti-6s SICK cornering abilities to any amount it starts to say bye bye to sidewalls on any decent tyre and im not breaking traction. So purposely spinning the tyres whiole cornering surely eats the tyres dead. I only use michelins so its not terrible tyres at fault, although I do need a suspension refresh (Bought all the trick bits just need to book time off to put them on.)

Do big smokey drifts and yeah the rears will look like this after 30 minutes.
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Small amount of sideways in the wet on the other hand and you take 2mm off them in 2 months, and thats with a messed up alignment.

If you are killing the sidewalls then something isn't right, either not enough camber for what you are doing or too much body roll. You shouldn't be rolling onto the sidewalls.
 
[TW]Fox;21654293 said:
This combined with the fact he only works part time at Uni means that really 90% of the cars in this thread are masisvely OTT and not even needed.

The guy could buy a 2 litre Focus, run it comfortable and think he's driving a rocketship after the 54bhp Fiesta he has now.

There is simply no need to buy a millstone to hang around your neck, which is exactly what a performance car is when you are at Uni working 2 days a week.

He could also get something like this http://pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3793227.htm bank the cash and still have a little fun whilst at it :D
 
Hmm what about a CTR? gotta be reliable enough and not cost too much if things need replacing? It's about the only HH I like.:confused:

Either that or look into getting an mx-5 for some fun maybe, edit: is sport worth it over regular model, take it its got better suspension?
 
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[TW]Fox;21654293 said:
This combined with the fact he only works part time at Uni means that really 90% of the cars in this thread are masisvely OTT and not even needed.

The guy could buy a 2 litre Focus, run it comfortable and think he's driving a rocketship after the 54bhp Fiesta he has now.

There is simply no need to buy a millstone to hang around your neck, which is exactly what a performance car is when you are at Uni working 2 days a week.

I completely forgot about the fiesta tbh, you're both quite right anything will feel like a step up
 
Anyone know much about eCar insurance? just ran a quote for an 03 sport Mx-5 and its £666 which seems good :eek:
 
It's reasonably quick yes, won't set the world on fire though and you would be in danger of losing if you were to go up against even a modern hot hatch. I average 28mpg from it, not bad for it's age I suppose, it's a LOT better than my 300zx and that's what I was looking for.
Steering is by far the biggest weakness, I find it to be sloppy, uncommunicative and lacking the sharp response that I'm used to. I've thrown money at it hand over fist trying to remedy it, improved on it a fair bit but still not up to scratch.
Braking is good, no complaints there. Engine is good but the restrictive inlet manifold makes it lose torque dramatically at high rpm, very strong in the mid range and nice throttle response as you'd expect from an NA motor. I'll add this though, when I bought it the throttle pedal was sticky and felt horrible, every e36 I've driven has been like this. I replaced the cable with a new genuine one and it improved no end, still has more resistance than any other car I've driven though.
RWD, this is why I bought it, I love a bit of skidding and this was cheaper than the S15 I really wanted by a large margin. Only the pre facelift (Sport model) ones had an LSD, make sure you get one of these as the open diff model with an electronic nanny sucks massive balls. I suppose if you have no intention of doing any fun skids in it then it would be fine.

Suspension wise, Sport model came with Bilstein B8, I would assume this is firmer and better than the B4, they had Nurburgring stickers all over them so I guess they are the sporty models. I had these with Apex springs on and it felt like an american car, soft and wallowy. I can only assume the dampers were worn out, but anyway the springs were no good IMO, however there would be no problem with ride comfort at all.
I chose to ditch the **** suspension and put HSD HR coilovers on, even on quite a hard setting, with solid rubber bushings and solid top mounts, the ride isn't bad at all and it's still plenty compliant enough to go full throttle on a bumpy road.

You mention it sounds muted, is you exhaust flap working? The tailpipe closest to the centre of the car has a valve in it which will open up at wide throttle openings after 2.5k or so, the backbox becomes straight through, with this open and the VANOS coming in at 3k it really makes a fair bit of noise. Check that it works, it should be open when the engine is off, and close shortly after starting up.

To the guy who said don't buy a Sport, don't listen to that guy. The sport gets the lower, Bilstein suspension as I mentioned, you get the M3 body kit (definitely want this, standard looks pony), Sport seats standard, nice black headlining, LSD on the earlier ones.

i was looking for your reply

e36 suspension, in my experience, is that its not a doddle to overhaul properly

cost wise, if youre looking for a cheapy, the suspension will cost a stack to refurb

if i wanted lolz and pocket money fun, id be after an old 16v gti golf. nothing is expensive on those, everything is simple to do and theyre extremely durable
 
It's reasonably quick yes, won't set the world on fire though and you would be in danger of losing if you were to go up against even a modern hot hatch. I average 28mpg from it, not bad for it's age I suppose, it's a LOT better than my 300zx and that's what I was looking for.
Steering is by far the biggest weakness, I find it to be sloppy, uncommunicative and lacking the sharp response that I'm used to. I've thrown money at it hand over fist trying to remedy it, improved on it a fair bit but still not up to scratch.
Braking is good, no complaints there. Engine is good but the restrictive inlet manifold makes it lose torque dramatically at high rpm, very strong in the mid range and nice throttle response as you'd expect from an NA motor. I'll add this though, when I bought it the throttle pedal was sticky and felt horrible, every e36 I've driven has been like this. I replaced the cable with a new genuine one and it improved no end, still has more resistance than any other car I've driven though.
RWD, this is why I bought it, I love a bit of skidding and this was cheaper than the S15 I really wanted by a large margin. Only the pre facelift (Sport model) ones had an LSD, make sure you get one of these as the open diff model with an electronic nanny sucks massive balls. I suppose if you have no intention of doing any fun skids in it then it would be fine.

Suspension wise, Sport model came with Bilstein B8, I would assume this is firmer and better than the B4, they had Nurburgring stickers all over them so I guess they are the sporty models. I had these with Apex springs on and it felt like an american car, soft and wallowy. I can only assume the dampers were worn out, but anyway the springs were no good IMO, however there would be no problem with ride comfort at all.
I chose to ditch the **** suspension and put HSD HR coilovers on, even on quite a hard setting, with solid rubber bushings and solid top mounts, the ride isn't bad at all and it's still plenty compliant enough to go full throttle on a bumpy road.

You mention it sounds muted, is you exhaust flap working? The tailpipe closest to the centre of the car has a valve in it which will open up at wide throttle openings after 2.5k or so, the backbox becomes straight through, with this open and the VANOS coming in at 3k it really makes a fair bit of noise. Check that it works, it should be open when the engine is off, and close shortly after starting up.

To the guy who said don't buy a Sport, don't listen to that guy. The sport gets the lower, Bilstein suspension as I mentioned, you get the M3 body kit (definitely want this, standard looks pony), Sport seats standard, nice black headlining, LSD on the earlier ones.

I had a 318iS with M-tech suspension and was under the impression that this used Bilstein B4. Do you have any links on this? I was so impressed with the handling of my 318iS and thought I would seriously miss this with the Touring, hence the initial idea to effectively kit it out with the same set-up. However, I was pleasantly surprised with how good the Touring felt when I test-drove it. What I really didn't expect was for it to feel more neutral with that heavy lump up front, but somehow it did and the whole thing feels very fluid. Saying that, the Touring is on 15" wheels whilst the 318iS was on 16". The latter was bought with 15" and later 'upgraded', and to be honest I found the bigger wheels did nothing for the handling whatsoever.

The M52 manifold didn't suit me coming from the 318iS, it did give it a sensation of grunt but certainly felt a bit strangled to me at high revs. Easily remedied though.

The flap is working on the exhaust, I'm considering doing the golf-tee mod to keep it throughout the rev range. It's a nice sound but perhaps I was expecting a bit more.

I agree with InvaderGIR on breaking traction. For some reason I actually found it easier with the 318iS (perhaps the lighter weight?), but I have no problems switching ASC off and doing the same with my 328i. On a side note, despite the simplicity compared to DSC I find the ASC system quite impressive. I was experimenting with it in winter by running one side of the car on ice / compacted snow and the other on the tarmac. In first gear with foot down it took off with no drama at all; no steering input required to keep it in a straight line. I find it pleasantly unobtrusive too, it lets the back end hang out quite a bit before reeling it back in which I did not expect.
 
Worse thing i done was buy a convertable when i was his age. Kept it for 5 months feeling a bit of a plonker and bought a hot hatch. Which is what he should be getting ;-)

That was the worst thing hey? Why? Most of my friends who took the micky out of the car when I first got it completley changed their mind once they had been in it (with the roof down). The only people you would have to worry about are strangers who you would never see again?

Honestly dont understand this worry about feeling daft for driving a car with the roof down.
 
Hmm what about a CTR? gotta be reliable enough and not cost too much if things need replacing?

I wouldn't of wanted to run my car when I was 21

its hard enough running it at the moment, let alone on part time job wages.
 
Your 21, you dont want comfort. You want somthing nippy, that you can chuck around for under 2k.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3789446.htm

Spend the rest on insurance LOL

I've only skimmed over the thread but surely this is perfect? Perhaps find one with a better service history but these seem like the ideal choice for someone who wants a cheap fun car with a reasonable turn of pace...or am I missing something?!?!?!
 
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