Chinese Grand Prix 2012, Shanghai - Race 3/20

Skeeter said:
Were you not only recently jumping down the throat of anyone who dared suggest Merc would pull the plug if they failed to deliver this year?
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no.... its only suposed to be a small amount of shareholders so far and dieter zetsche is a big f1 fan so its likely given the right concorde agreement they will stay put.

mercedes were always suposed to be playing the long game and as someone on another forum says
The only justifiable reason for a withdrawal would be expense.
And Mercedes just recorded their best ever quarter in its history, so cash is not a problem for them.

Allied to this, we can see Mercedes fighting tooth and nail for a better deal from the concorde agreement. Even going as far as using European law to block favourable deals for Red Bull and Ferrari(Hope they succeed on this if they go down this route).

The decision is the boards. And Shareholders cannot sack the board on the basis of Mercedes involvement in F1 when the car company is going from strength to strength.
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Yeah, Hamilton in 6th is a given :p

I wouldn't write MS off yet though, Only 0.023s behind Button in Malaysia...
 
Here we go...!

Lotus have stepped out of Red Bulls shadow and lodged an official protest against the Mercedes wing.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98719

Surely the only way the FIA can rule is that its legal (again). If they deem it legal twice (3 times if you include them saying it was legal in testing), they cant now decide its not, surely?

Then again, this is the FIA.

Personally, anything that screws Lotus over at the moment and makes them look like pathetic whinging kids gets my vote :D
 
Skeeter said:
Here we go...!

Lotus have stepped out of Red Bulls shadow and lodged an official protest against the Mercedes wing.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98719

Surely the only way the FIA can rule is that its legal (again). If they deem it legal twice (3 times if you include them saying it was legal in testing), they cant now decide its not, surely?

Then again, this is the FIA.

Personally, anything that screws Lotus over at the moment and makes them look like pathetic whinging kids gets my vote :D
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lotus are just butthurt over there suspension
 
Pole / startin first in the race are different things surely (due to penalties)

I know what everyone is meaning but from "pole" stats , this is what the car / driver got in quali before penalties etc are applied - so LH can still get Pole (and most seem to think he will)

With Merc's decent start system LH might struggle to get past them for a few laps if he doesnt manage to do it immediately (McLaren havent exactly been shoddy at starting lol), so from a pure race perspective it wouldnt be good if one/both Merc's start ahead of LH
 
I'm thinking Hamilton to take pole in quali and start 6th — Button to start on pole and probably go from lights to flag.

If it stays dry it will be good to see the true race pace of the various cars. I'd like to see Hamilton tear his way back up to a podium finish but I expect he will either maintain his steady-eddy role and be happy with a few points OR go balls out like the Hamilton of old and crash into someone/screw his tyres over. :p
 
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/98727

He also confirmed that it would be possible for the team to switch Vettel's exhaust configuration to the newer version for Saturday morning if it was deemed better, but there would be no plan for Webber to revert back to the older concept if it shows some advantage for his world champion team-mate.
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Red Bull might end up giving Webber a slower car intentionally. ;):rolleyes::eek::confused::mad::cool::p:D:o:(:)
 
Skeeter said:
Surely the only way the FIA can rule is that its legal (again). If they deem it legal twice (3 times if you include them saying it was legal in testing), they cant now decide its not, surely?

Then again, this is the FIA.

Personally, anything that screws Lotus over at the moment and makes them look like pathetic whinging kids gets my vote :D
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The outcome of the protest will be decided by the stewards, not the FIA or Whiting so we don't know what they'll decide.

Up until now I think it's only actually been Whiting that's said it's legal as far as he is concerned. No clarification or ruling has been made because nobody protested it yet.
 
Yes, but the FIA (Whiting) verdict and the Stewards verdict will both be made based on comparing the same device to the same set of regulations.

We shall see.
 
Courtesy of Jon Noble @ Autosport via twitter...

"FIA confirms that stewards agreed unanimously to reject the Lotus protest, meaning Merc is free to keep using its double DRS"

lol
 
Lotus press release:

"But Muuuuuuum! They took away my toys! Why do the other guys get to keep theirs? Its not fair! There cheating!"
 
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