Goodnight sweet F10 M5

Regardless of how aggressively (sounds like BS anyway) they merged, if the BMW wasn't doing 190mph it wouldn't have crashed. Running at max speed in the inside lane past an on ramp is hardly the smartest thing in the world either is it now.
 
Kenai said:
How on earth you 'aggressively' move from a slip road to the motorway anyway i'm not quite sure...
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Pull straight out into the furthest lane?

Given the scenario tho sounds like your average driver with average observational skills missed the vehicle thats doing over 80 meters per second.
 
Super, BMW driver is a knob and crashes whilst racing his sons, then blames other road users for his own stupidity.

Its highly doubtful that it was a legal speed even in Germany as they autobahn has vastly reduced speed limits around junctions, such as where this is aleged to have happened.
 
And this is why you shouldn't do 186mph on any roads. It doesn't matter how capable your car is, it's the other people you've got to worry about who just aren't expecting someone to come up behind them at pushing 200mph.

I'm sorry, but this is the BMW's fault as much as it is the div who pulled onto the motorway, if not more.
 
TRNC said:
Super, BMW driver is a knob and crashes whilst racing his sons, then blames other road users for his own stupidity.

Its highly doubtful that it was a legal speed even in Germany as they autobahn has vastly reduced speed limits around junctions, such as where this is aleged to have happened.
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I seem to recall that although some parts of the autobahn are derestricted, there is a rule stating something like "if you go more than 140kph, and there is an accident, regardless of what happens, you accept partial/full liability for the resulting carnage"

Obviously that's paraphrased and from memory - can anyone confirm?
 
Gaygle said:
And this is why you shouldn't do 186mph on any roads. It doesn't matter how capable your car is, it's the other people you've got to worry about who just aren't expecting someone to come up behind them at pushing 200mph.

I'm sorry, but this is the BMW's fault as much as it is the div who pulled onto the motorway, if not more.
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I would say they are both to blame. Pair of morons if you ask me. Lucky nobody was killed.
 
Gaygle said:
I seem to recall that although some parts of the autobahn are derestricted, there is a rule stating something like "if you go more than 140kph, and there is an accident, regardless of what happens, you accept partial/full liability for the resulting carnage"

Obviously that's paraphrased and from memory - can anyone confirm?
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IIRC 130kph is the "advised" limit and exceeding that will count against you in an accident.
 
M6, M5 and M3 all together on the motorway playing happy families? I think not. Also no matter how safe it is I would not take my son and dog in the car with me doing crazy speeds on a public road whether it is legal or not.
 
I seem to recall that although some parts of the autobahn are derestricted, there is a rule stating something like "if you go more than 140kph, and there is an accident, regardless of what happens, you accept partial/full liability for the resulting carnage"
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130Km/h is the advised maximum speed. I've driven the autobahns a lot, and one thing I noticed a lot was that high speed commuting would drop a lot approaching junctions. Typical cruising speeds on open roads was around the 200km/h mark, but that would drop back to 130-150 approaching junctions.

I assumed - note assumed, I don't know that this is true or not - that speed limits were vaguely enforced at junctions.

186Mph, that's just astonishingly fast. I've done an indicated 190 in my RS4 on an Autobahn, and you don't have time to blink never mind to react to anything changes. You'd be in a ditch or spread all over a bridge before you knew anything.
 
Agreed, it was a bad call to do that speed approaching/going past a junction.
 
Car joins road, apparently clear ish, Blue BMW a long way off in the mirrors if he'd done a brief basic mirror check, given the M5's speed, its ontop of him in no time, with nowhere to go (I'd assume due to other traffic) personally, I blame the M5 driver, not the guy who joined at a slow speed (which by comparison to the M5 he was going very slow even if doing 80+!)

I would hazzard a guess, the M5 driver won't be doing much more driving like that due to either being confined to a wheelchair and ,most likely, a loss of licence - quite rightly imo.


Anybody uploaded those photo's to Wrecked Exotics yet? :p

MacRS4 said:
186Mph, that's just astonishingly fast. I've done an indicated 190 in my RS4 on an Autobahn, and you don't have time to blink never mind to react to anything changes. You'd be in a ditch or spread all over a bridge before you knew anything.
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I've found myself in a fair few situations over the years where 55MPH (limited speed for an HGV) is suddenly way too fast, like you say, at that speed, he stood no chance whatsoever.
 
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It's amazing how quick a slow speed feels when something goes wrong, 186mph he had no chance if someone did pull out on him. Hope they are all ok including the poor dog.
 
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