Yes, that your post was rubbish....but with a c word.
david cameron ''children should stand up''
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Yes, that your post was rubbish....but with a c word.
But surely at least attempting to instil a bit of discipline into these children would be a start?
Giving up on them to the detriment of others is just sad.
I started primary school in 1991 and left school altogether in 2003, and noticed a massive change in pupil behaviour in the last 3 or 4 years I was there (mostly negative.)
Maybe as a nation we should look at why they don't want to be there. I think it's due to complete lack of interest. If maybe rather then going back to Grammar schools, you set up a less academic school, focus on teaching trades to the people that are less academic, therefore leaving the schools free to teach the more promising academics, you may end up with a good standard of both education and skilled workers.
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Isn't it most school policys to show equality between people? I can't see how getting the whole class/school to stand conforms to these policys, unless, when a student walks into class, everyone stands. I can see this being tedious though.
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What about scientists, doctor, those who actually did more work to get their degree, do you stand up when they enter the room? Didn't think so.
I think there is some validity in kids who don't have an academic side to them being taught practical trades, but I also know that some kids simply don't want to learn anything be it practical or academic and often the kids who are most disruptive are not always lacking in eduction ability, they are simply disruptive.
This is what crash test dummies were invented for.....in the un PC world of Housey at least.
The school should be focussing on the students academics not their discilpine.
Yeah I suppose there is no correlation between a bad attitude and lacking in intelligence, maybe the disruptive ones could go to boot camp.
You can't just use a swear word as an argument. Please enlighten me.
Surely they both go hand in hand?
really? in my opinion they should also be focusing on discipline manners and other important life skills, so they are more prepared for life after education.
So having two types of school? One for academic studies and one for trade type studies.
After mandatory school that is what happens at the moment, college or sixth form as it seems. Having this all the way up the education system is not a bad idea, however having some core subjects there should always be the case, basic maths + english skills should ALWAYS be taught. It's needed everywhere in life.
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So the nub of the issue is that you are elitist. It has nothing to do with respect. Let's all compare salaries and degrees then and see who is worthy of respect.
Who is to say that the two don't go hand-in-hand? Somebody who is extremely smart but really arrogant is no better than somebody who is very stupid but is very respectful of those around him.
You can when the argument is moronic.
Because most of the people who run business today were bought up that way, your argument is preposterous. It has nothing to do with 'betters' and everything to do with common courtesy of children to adults. Do you think giving a free rein to people to be rebellious or lacking in any, to use some peoples terms 'old fashioned' values will create generations of Steve Jobs?
Cream virtually always rises to the top in the same way a lack of standards, principals or courtesy degrades society.
It's not discipline though. It's forcing people to do things they really don't want to do. And I agree with you that is a sad idea, but that's what I'm saying it doesn't have to be "YOU MUST GO TO SCHOOL FOR 12 YEARS AND THAT IS FINAL". There may be other options, and if there isn't well the kids will likely end up with bad grades end up with a bad job and most likely regret that they hadn't paid attention in school. But that's life and that's their fault.
Yeah you could fork off at say just after primary or maybe in the third year secondary, when you normally take your options, you could plump for a trade maybe, start at that age then become an apprentice but with a good amount of knowledge behind you.
No one can teach you life. Like the threads on this forum always asking for advice with girls, you can't teach it, you can advise but essentally you must be burned so you can learn. And the school is no the place for it.
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