There is actuallynothing wrong with what Cameron is suggesting. If anyone thinks its that offensive then they might need to go for a morals and manners MOT ?
david cameron ''children should stand up''
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There is actuallynothing wrong with what Cameron is suggesting. If anyone thinks its that offensive then they might need to go for a morals and manners MOT ?
this statement is somewhat unfair, its not just lower class thugs, you also get Toff thugs and they are the worst of all because they know what ever happens their rich parents will buy them out of trouble.
Yes, because the current attitudes between humans in the 21st Century is a brilliant beacon just now
I think some people are unable to distinguish and separate respect for an individual as a person and respect for a position of authority. Like it or not, certain positions within our societies have authority over others at certain times. At these times, the positions should have respect from said society.
See first part of reply.
As I said, read what I said not what you THINK I said. I never said standing was a good thing, I said your stupid comment taking standing and turning into what you are now turning it into was stupid. I said courtesy for elders was good practice, you have gone off on your down trodden human rights/big cheese walking over the proletariat diatribe.
See my point above, you are making 2 and 2 equal 83, like equating the inventor of electricity with porn depraving our children because well, without electric there would be no internet so there. I never stood up at school when teachers walked in, only when my headmaster came into assembly. Again you're on your down trodden employee rights and again, I say the man, he protest too much...
What he is suggestion should be the standard in all schools. And people wonder why England is going down the pan... *looks at d_brennen*
I think he should spend more time on actual policy and, you know, doing politics, rather than incessant headline grabbing. All mouth and no trousers
you have to earn respect
whilst many teachers are ace many other teachers dont deserve it
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I've got to admit I'm not convinced that being made to stand up necessarily equates to good manners or instilling "proper" respect. I can't say I remember having to stand up when a teacher walked into the room and I wouldn't say I'm generally a discourteous person - this would imply to me that they're not inextricably linked or maybe I'm suffering from a corollary of the Dunning-Kruger effect with regard to manners.
I would tend to agree with the position that you should give everyone (and I do mean everyone regardless of perceived status) a certain basic level of respect on first meeting them which you will then adjust to suit what level of respect you feel they merit. I do think that respect beyond a certain basic level of courtesy should be earned though, whether that's respect for the position they've achieved and worked towards or whether it's from their conduct or some other metric entirely is up to the individual who is paying the respect.
I would tend to agree with the position that you should give everyone (and I do mean everyone regardless of perceived status) a certain basic level of respect on first meeting them which you will then adjust to suit what level of respect you feel they merit. I do think that respect beyond a certain basic level of courtesy should be earned though, whether that's respect for the position they've achieved and worked towards or whether it's from their conduct or some other metric entirely is up to the individual who is paying the respect.
This is partly true, however the vast majority of scum are from council estates where the meaning of respect has gone.
If all students were disciplined in school from an early age, there would be no talking back and violence if they knew they wouldn't get away with it.
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Well at least you agree there is a hierarchy. The pupil's position is at the bottom and the teacher's position is further up the hierarchy.....
as a pupil at a school that's not your call to make, you are there to learn / attned classes. Its like being in the military, you salute the rank not the man, same thing applies here.....
Bournemouth is the home of the sweeping statement. Nice edit too, very respectful
Source, or are you talking out your ass?
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I live in Devon... and what edit?
Lets get this out of the way first, there is a default level of respect for everyone, however there are plenty of old people I have met on my travels who demand far more respect than the average. Unfortunately there is an assumption, probably from their generation more so than them individually, that they should be special cases because they are your elders. That is where respect is earned rather than just given.
I think the respect issue is one of the major factors that defines a good or bad teacher. Those teachers I had at school that were "bad" teachers were those that assumed respect, treated you poorly and assumed they should have been respected. The best teachers were IMO those that worked for their respect, didn't make assumptions and earned it. Those that didn't assume respect were given it in spades by even the most disruptive students, those that treated students like rubbish were in turn treated like rubbish.
Obviously that wasn't a hard and fast rule but was the general trend.
BTW why the "you"? I have been out of school for about 8 years now.
as a serving soldier in the armed forces you don't get to chose whether or not you salute a ranking officer, you do it as respect for the rank held, not the person who is in the uniform. Its basic military ideology that has existed for centuries and something my father as a man of the forces was taught for decades.
Oh come on, how the hell would any of the armed forces work if you did it your way?!
Apologies, You come across as being a child. Sorry.
Although, I fail to see how that incurs a 'rude awakening' exactly.
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Either source it or it's an bassless opinion fronted as fact.
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